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Toshiba L200

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I do not recall this being announced. Newegg shows stock available today.

Toshiba has a new 2.5" / 7-9.5 mm lineup out, in 2 TB / 1 TB / 500 GB. Apparently all 5400 RPM.

L200 in 2TB (9.5mm) for $95

My question is if it's PMR. Toshiba's product page has no detailed specs. (click on the L200 pic in the banner). Their support section lists the drive, but basically has no documents.

Obviously I'd like to see a notebook drive bigger than 2TB. But even at 2TB, it would be nice to have a current PMR available. The M9T is running $156-200 on Newegg (about half of a basic 2TB SSD), and I'm not certain it's still being made.

Any chance Storage Review could use their spies to determine if it's PMR?

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The sizes offered imply it's a 2-platter drive. Which would be inline with current platter densities. If it is PMR, it would be a solid improvement over the M9T (3 platters).

Since Toshiba offers that (3.5") 14TB PMR drive with a crazy 9 platters, it opens the door to a 3-platter 3TB in the near future. Maybe we'll finally get some upgrade options before SSDs take over the space.

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I mean maybe...but how much of the world really cares about dense 2.5" HDDs any more? I know some do, especially in 2-bay workstations, but it's shrinking.

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The key concern is SSD price. If SSD prices crashed, I'd completely lose interest in HDDs. But SSDs remained stubbornly high for several years, then resumed a slow downward creep.

Since SSDs don't drop despite repeated process improvements and new factories opening, the only near-term hope is larger HDDs. At least those have to be competitively priced to sell vs SSDs.

So upgrade choices are: (A) no upgrade, keep waiting. (B) 4TB SSD for $1000+. (C) potential 3TB HDD in the $120--140 range.

I've been stuck at (A) for around 4 years now, because I'm not willing to be ripped off with (B). In my experience, most people do not like to be ripped off. That leaves denser HDDs as the only realistic hope.

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We care, mostly for a lot of our customers who want easy-to-use, convenience-first, somewhat-rugged, high-capacity... if we could get bigger than 5TB we'd take a bunch in a heartbeat. SSD is overkill for this application due to cost and low I/O performance requirements.

That said, I realize that's definitely an edge case...

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QLC is going to close the gap further. There should be 3 QLC SSDs launched very soon. Might even have some in the lab ;)

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We only have the 660p at the moment. Reworking the test plan too, industry pushback on the 5% test area. They want to see some 1% tests that are more gentle on the cache and perhaps more indicative of light consumer workloads. 

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