JamesBradley

What is the most reliable brand? Hitachi/Toshiba/Samsung/Seagate/WD/Or

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I plan to buy a 2TB external hard drive and need some advice on which to choose. I found some for around £50-80 which were Hitachi, Toshiba, Samsung, Western Digital, Seagate

I have done some research and it seems Hitachi are the best and Seagate the worst? But I thought I should ask the experts too..
What I really need to know is which brand is most reliable and what to look for in drives, aside from the lifespan of the warranty, I don't know much about the specifications other than the storage capacity, so any help would really be appreciated,

Thank you for your time

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There's no easy answer as what's inside changes all the time in most cases. Go with price and design and hope for the best.

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Hi, thank you for replying!

I don't really understand much about the specifications all I see is the storage capacity.. If I post those I am looking at, would you be able to tell me which is best please:


Hitachi 2TB Touro black

Toshiba HDWC120EW3J1 Stor.E Canvio

Seagate STBV2000200

Samsung 2TB D3 Station

WD 2TB My Book USB

Thank you

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For an external drive, assuming you're just using it for storage and media playback, the performance of any modern external is going to be irrelevant between brands.

As Brian said, buy whatever's cheapest or just whatever you happen to like best.

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That data isn't relevant here at all.

OP - buy the one that's the most pretty and fits your budget.

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Whatever you buy don't expect it to last.

Simple.

Please stop spreading this FUD.

I guess next you'll be spouting your "external drives contain refurbished drives" BS? :rolleyes:

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Please stop spreading this FUD.

I guess next you'll be spouting your "external drives contain refurbished drives" BS? :rolleyes:

Its pretty much true for external drives up to costly HDDs stuck in an EMC array. They are mechanical devices and not to be trusted to last a lifetime. Have a backup in place with that understanding (or two) and you are set.

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If there's anything to be scared of with externals it's just that you have no idea what's in there. Vendors use the external market as a way to test new products sometimes, which meet the listed spec but may not be what you're expecting inside.

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I never trust hard drives. Why

Is it fud? Nothing lasts.

Everything has its limits and risks.

Don't condemn my comment because it's true.

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A blanket statement that nothing lasts is probably the inflammatory part. But yes, things fail and relying on any single device isn't smart. A complete data protection scheme is necessary and vital if you enjoy the data on a said drive.

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Well, I apologize my statement is the sad truth.

Anything with a warranty is guaranteed to fail. It just doesn't come out of your pocket. And no warranty will ever be able put a $-sign on my data. If it's important, it does not get written to rotating platters.

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That's a very broad statement that may make sense in your world but it's a global truth. Everything fails, sure...but most archive/backup solutions are on disk. Putting everything on an SSD or tape, whatever you're using, doesn't solve all problems.

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I agree that nothing lasts, this is why I archive to stone tablets.

Of course nothing lasts but that's the point of warranties. They are there to replace the device, it doesn't guarantee the data. If you want to protect data you need multiple copies, preferably offsite, and hopefully with checksums so you can verify. This is why I have multiples of important data and single copy for anything else. To protect it requires cost and effort.

So what do you do for "important" data then?

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@jamesbradley

I looked at all five of the ones listed and they are all basically the same. I have bought the Seagate for customers, used the WD for myself, and the others seem fine as well. These enclosures don't have active cooling so the drives are slower than regular desktop drives (usually under 5900 RPM). I would say they are equal, as others have said, so see what you can afford. I would expect them to last 2-3 years of always on.

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So what do you do for "important" data then?

Important gets written to 6 2tb hdds mirrored.

Really important such as family pjotors, gets written to 6 256gb sdd mirrored.

I also squeeze what I can on a USB hub, that has 12 128gb USB pen drives, also mirrored as one array.

And my raid 5/6/1 arrays accomplished the all mighty mdadm.

Why? I can mirror pen drives, do that with a $2000 card.

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But for the record, I'm using barracudas, cheap 3tb consumer ones.

$99 specials.

I started with 2, in raid5 degraded. Added one every 2 months or so as I got near capacity. Once I had 4 in raid5

, I added one more for a 2nd parity, and migrated to raid6.

Yes, both growing the file system and the transition from 5 to 6 was seamless, lost no data.

So I made a 2nd raid6 array, and then ran out of case.

So a 2nd box has the smaller stuff for mirroring important. I had all those pen drives in raid5, but it was slow, so I converted it a mirrored setup.

Mdadm is nice, I can pull all the pens, or one, and a few keystrokes on another box with mdadm, assemble, degraded or not, and copy/share important stuff.

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So, if all drives are going to fail, I must be doing something very wrong.

I've 100 PCs at work which all run 24/7, and since I started in 2007 do you know how many drives I've had fail? None. I even still have 80GB WD800JB drives running in a few machines (old P4 HT Dell optiplexes). Only drive failures I had at home were drives that had broken SATA connectors or the likes, or got dropped.

In the last 7 years I've had more SSDs fail than HDDs.

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Well, I apologize my statement is the sad truth.

Anything with a warranty is guaranteed to fail. It just doesn't come out of your pocket. And no warranty will ever be able put a $-sign on my data. If it's important, it does not get written to rotating platters.

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Nothing like the good old myth that SSDs are more reliable than HDDs. An HDD that doesn't have any manufacturing defects and survives the first few months or so will probably last a very, very long time.

SSDs have a seriously limited lifespan, a problem inherent to the technology. This is a scientifically proven fact, and it's only getting worse as more levels are added to a single cell to squeeze extra storage at the cost of further decreased reliability.

To make matters worse, data retention in SSDs that are not powered on is extremely limited compared to an HDD. If you keep your SSD offline for a year you are probably boned. No such problems exist with an HDD.

Use an SSD to put stuff you don't really care about but you want the performance (eg: operating system, programs - stuff that can easily be reinstalled or replaced). For long term storage of your important stuff, keep multiple copies in HDDs.

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SSDs have a seriously limited lifespan, a problem inherent to the technology

Inherent limitation? Yes.

Real-world impact, tho? Not much to the end user on a modern SSD, even when writing well, well beyond the rated SSD lifetime.

http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes

If you keep your SSD offline for a year you are probably boned.

Unpowered data retention spec per JEDEC (JESD218 and JESD219) specifies unpowered retention time of 1 year for consumer-spec SSDs.

http://www.jedec.org/sites/default/files/Alvin_Cox%20%5BCompatibility%20Mode%5D_0.pdf

No such problems exist with an HDD.

Mostly true, but you will still have to deal with uncorrectable bit errors as well as mechanical issues from letting a drive sit idle for extended periods. I agree-- generally not an issue-- but harddisks do indeed have some non-zero risk. As you note, anything you need kept safe, keep multiple copies on multiple disks!

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