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Seagate 7200.10 Review

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Now, I think it's time to go on...

If here's some Seagate 7200.10 400GB (recent production) owners, please could you HDtach your drive and post the results here?

It's just because of in some time-point Seagate probably would start to use newer 200GB platters in this model. As the upcoming 960GB/1000GB drive is just may-be a couple of months away, I think they may quietly start to evaluate 200...240...250GB platters.

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MrSpadge' date='Oct 10 2006, 01:58 AM' post='234876']

I always wondered HOW my 7200.9 could have faster seeks than an old 4GB Maxtor I have but be SO much quieter. That Maxtor sounds like a grinder.

Should be a matter of fast 5400rpm vs. medium-slow 7200rpm. And some newer technique - all old hdds sound horrible ;)

By the way, is nobody here shocked about the SR results of the Barracuda ES? Or did you just expect low real-world performance from your seagates?

MrS

Well I mean that's part of it. But even still, my Seagate is almost silent at idle and has a slight ticking noise when seeking. The Maxtor has a bit of whine at idle and is STUPIDLY loud when seeking. I mean I could hear it easily from 5 feet away. I would have trouble hearing my Seagate at all from that far away. The Maxtor has 9.0ms seeks and my Seagate has tested at 8.8-8.9ms on HDtach and HDtune many times.

Just didn't know what could be so different while performance could actually be better. Actuators haven't changed much in the last 15 years. Doesn't matter much to me anyway, I don't really care how loud a HD's seeks are, it's whine that bothers me. Since whine is almost non-existant with FDBs, any drive made today would be fine for me. I don't think you could give me a drive that has seeks I would consider too loud :)

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already got mine... :D

320GB Seagate Sata-II 16MB Cache in Sata 150 Mode

Made in Thailand

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thankfully it is a quiet one...

..is the performance okay?

Comp spec :

AMD 64 3200+ (2Ghz)

DFi Lanparty Ultra-D Nforce 3 mobo

2x512MB Mushkin Blueline (2,3,3,6)

hmm now I notice that my WD120 GB Sata is very slow...

120gbwdsew6.png

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hmmm when I run the Seatools test, it shows this result :

SeaTools Desktop v3.02.04

Copyright © 2005 Kroll Ontrack Inc.

10/16/2006 @ 3:39 AM

The following information has been generated by SeaTools Desktop. Use

this information to help you recognize and resolve potential data access

problems.

System Information:

BIOS Date 07/11/05

Conventional Memory size 638 K

Extended Memory size 58532 K

IO Channel type PCI

Drive Information:

SIZE MODEL

--------- ---------------------

320 GB BIOS Drive 0x80

Serial Number = N/A

Int13 Num = 80, PHYS CHS = 0x0x0.

ParmTable CHS, Rsvd = 41345x240x63

PARTITION CYLINDER SIZE

---------- ------------ ----

# Type Start End MB

PRIMARY

1 NTFS 0 7475 57878

PRIMARY

2 NTFS 7476 16119 66921

PRIMARY

3 NTFS 16120 31727 120836

PRIMARY

4 NTFS 31728 41344 74454

Diagnostic Results:

90-Second Test Result: Passed

Recommendation:

The "Quick Test" is adequate for most situations.

Consider running the "Full Test" which

verifies each sector on the drive if you need to run a more

comprehensive diagnostic.

SMART Status Check Result: Not Tested

S.M.A.R.T., (S)elf (M)onitoring (A)nalysis and ®eporting (T)echnology, a built-in hard disk drive failure prediction method reports an 'Alert' if a problem has occurred. It reports 'Passed' if no problems are found and 'Unsupported' if a hard disk drive does not support S.M.A.R.T.

Full Diagnostic Scan Result: Passed

File Structure Test Result:

Partition 1 (NTFS (57.8 GB) Seagate_I) Result: Failed with critical Errors

The following errors were found while scanning the volume:

- One or more errors were found in the index

- One or more errors were found in metadata file records

NOTE: Any report of possible errors in the file system tests are for

informational purposes only. We suggest you should consider testing with

the official file system diagnostic utilities for your operating system.

Seagate is not able to assist with troubleshooting or reviewing

file system test results.

Partition 2 (NTFS (66.9 GB) Seagate_II) Result: Failed with critical Errors

The following errors were found while scanning the volume:

- One or more errors were found in metadata file records

- Other errors were found

NOTE: Any report of possible errors in the file system tests are for

informational purposes only. We suggest you should consider testing with

the official file system diagnostic utilities for your operating system.

Seagate is not able to assist with troubleshooting or reviewing

file system test results.

Partition 3 (NTFS (120.8 GB) Seagate_III) Result: Failed with critical Errors

The following errors were found while scanning the volume:

- One or more errors were found in metadata file records

- Other errors were found

NOTE: Any report of possible errors in the file system tests are for

informational purposes only. We suggest you should consider testing with

the official file system diagnostic utilities for your operating system.

Seagate is not able to assist with troubleshooting or reviewing

file system test results.

Partition 4 (NTFS (74.4 GB) Seagate_IV) Result: Failed with critical Errors

The following errors were found while scanning the volume:

- One or more errors were found in metadata file records

- Other errors were found

NOTE: Any report of possible errors in the file system tests are for

informational purposes only. We suggest you should consider testing with

the official file system diagnostic utilities for your operating system.

Seagate is not able to assist with troubleshooting or reviewing

file system test results.

******************************************

Recommendation:

All selected physical diagnostics passed.

If you are not experiencing data loss and SeaTools reports File

System Structure errors, they may be caused by a lock-up or

failure to shutdown Windows correctly. Many times, these errors

may be repaired through normal system maintenance which

includes using the Windows provided "Defrag" and

"Scandisk / Chkdsk / Error Checking" utilities.

If you are experiencing a hardware error, you should isolate

the cause and replace the failing component. If you are unsure how

to proceed with repairs, contact a computer professional. After

completing any maintenance tasks, run SeaTools again to

verify that all errors have been repaired. If errors continue to

occur, the system may not be stable. Again, contact a computer

professional.

========================================

this is from a newly created partition.. anyone knows why? or is it normal?

I already ran WinXP chkdsk, and it found no problem..

okay thanks

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My Seagate 7200.9 gave me the same "NTFS critical error" messages like 8 months ago when I ran Seatools after I banged the table my computer is on really hard, no problems at all though. I doubt it's something to worry about.

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@ exscalibur99

If you read the FAQ on Seatools, you will see that the file structure test does not in fact properly support NTSF partitions (simply ignore the File Structure Test results)

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@ exscalibur99

If you read the FAQ on Seatools, you will see that the file structure test does not in fact properly support NTSF partitions (simply ignore the File Structure Test results)

oh.. thanks for the info.. :)

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After reading this long thread, I still can't decide. Is this a good buy for a single disc workstation?

Is the noise going to bother me?

- It is good but may not be the best*.

- Noise or no noise for this drive is like a lottery, currently in ratio 1:4 (noisy:quiet)

*) We yet don't know the real world performance of the Hitachi T7K500 320GB (it may be much better than Seagate because of firmware), also the upcoming new WD3200 generation may be a winner...

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OK.

I ordered the Seagate yesterday. Hopefully it will be one of the quiet drives....

Is there a way to see anything from the serial number?

My new drive is going to have 3QF0L1JL.

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After reading this long thread, I still can't decide. Is this a good buy for a single disc workstation?

Is the noise going to bother me?

I`d go for the Hitachi T7K500 320GB, got 3 7200.10 my self and I don`t like them to much (Noise/vabration)

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Just got my 320GB Cuda 10.

Maybe its fast, but I would not buy a Cuda10 anymore. :angry:

I don't care about 70MB/sec. or 80MB/sec. in any benchmark.

This drives totally sucks.

It gets hot and its vibrations turn my case (15-20kg Steel and insulation) into some kind of subwoofer.

I used a 180GB IBM 180GXP before, that was a monster, but not as hot and disruptive as this piece of stinker that Seagate sell.

Buy WD, buy Hitachi, but don't waste your money for a Cuda10

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For 10 to 15€ you can get decent hdd decoupling devices. So if you can spare a 5 1/4" slot do yourself a favor and buy one of these. It will last you longer than one drive and with mine (couple of years old) I haven't heard any seek noise from any of my drives at all - despite its main purpose of avoiding vibration amplification by the case. And if you can afford loosing another 5 1/4" slot under the hdd you can easily mount a slow 80 or 92mm fan there with some wire or zip ties.

BTW: I've been quite happy with my 180GB GXP and only ordered a 320GB replacement last week - the new Hitachi ;)

MrS

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OK.

I ordered the Seagate yesterday. Hopefully it will be one of the quiet drives....

Is there a way to see anything from the serial number?

My new drive is going to have 3QF0L1JL.

I think I hit the jackpot! My new drive is nice and quiet :-)

The drive is noticeably faster than my Samsung SP161N.

SMART reports the temperature 38 C when I just surf the web, but the surface of the disk feels hot to the touch. I guess it is not a problem.

I am very happy with the disk so far.

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OK.

I ordered the Seagate yesterday. Hopefully it will be one of the quiet drives....

Is there a way to see anything from the serial number?

My new drive is going to have 3QF0L1JL.

I think I hit the jackpot! My new drive is nice and quiet :-)

The drive is noticeably faster than my Samsung SP161N.

SMART reports the temperature 38 C when I just surf the web, but the surface of the disk feels hot to the touch. I guess it is not a problem.

I am very happy with the disk so far.

1) How have you mounted it (is it suspended?).

2) How is the idle noise? Does it have some minimal whine?

3) Where is it produced?

jj

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OK.

I ordered the Seagate yesterday. Hopefully it will be one of the quiet drives....

Is there a way to see anything from the serial number?

My new drive is going to have 3QF0L1JL.

I think I hit the jackpot! My new drive is nice and quiet :-)

The drive is noticeably faster than my Samsung SP161N.

SMART reports the temperature 38 C when I just surf the web, but the surface of the disk feels hot to the touch. I guess it is not a problem.

I am very happy with the disk so far.

1) How have you mounted it (is it suspended?).

2) How is the idle noise? Does it have some minimal whine?

3) Where is it produced?

jj

1) Not suspended. It is mounted on the normal rack that is screwed in the case.

2) No whine at all. I can have the roof of the case open and have my ear 10 cm on top of the drive, and not hear any idle noise. My fan in the PSU sounds louder than anything from the drive. There is a sound of moving air coming from my PSU. Not loud at all.

I can hear the seeking clicks if the room is completely quiet and the case roof is open. The seeking is barely audible if you do not concentrate vary hard and try to hear it. I don't think that is possible to hear the seeks if the case is closed with my setup.

3) Singapore

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1) Not suspended. It is mounted on the normal rack that is screwed in the case.

2) No whine at all. I can have the roof of the case open and have my ear 10 cm on top of the drive, and not hear any idle noise. My fan in the PSU sounds louder than anything from the drive. There is a sound of moving air coming from my PSU. Not loud at all.

I can hear the seeking clicks if the room is completely quiet and the case roof is open. The seeking is barely audible if you do not concentrate vary hard and try to hear it. I don't think that is possible to hear the seeks if the case is closed with my setup.

3) Singapore

cool. seeking doesn't bother me, it's the idle noise that hurts. besides, i have the impression, it's the china-made drives that have the most problems.

jj

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I went to a store today to see where their Seagate 7200.10 drives were from:

One (250 GB) was Made in China and had the sticker on the motor and violet glue.

Another (320 GB) was made in Singapore, had no sticker and green glue.

As far as I can tell from this thread, the China made ones are more prone to noise issues. But there's also been some speculation that the drives with the sticker on the motor are a safer bet.

Any thoughts?

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I went to a store today to see where their Seagate 7200.10 drives were from:

One (250 GB) was Made in China and had the sticker on the motor and violet glue.

Another (320 GB) was made in Singapore, had no sticker and green glue.

As far as I can tell from this thread, the China made ones are more prone to noise issues. But there's also been some speculation that the drives with the sticker on the motor are a safer bet.

Any thoughts?

I looked at the drivers in my city for 3 retailers. Either it was:

1)Made in Singapore with no sticker on motor

2)Made in China with no sticker

All were 'E' versions. Mine is #1 and has no bad motor sound. I can still hear the seeks, but that's normal for this model. #1 is better country of origin I would think

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