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ok, i promised: difference between the U.S./EU

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I must add that i lost the notes that where more accurate. Anyway this is what i remember of it.

DIFFERENCE U.S. VERSUS EUROPE. VISITED ONLY CALIFORNIA NEVADA UTAH AND COLORADO

Things in favor of the U.S. (exceptions make the rule)

- Nobody walks through a red light, certainly not in San Fransisco. Las Vegas is different. Why? A lot of foreigners overthere.

- Nobody drives through a red light. Before someone says: “hey they doâ€, compared to Europe this means nothing.

- Nobody gives you the finger when you make a fault while driving, you get the finger everyday in Belgium, just to be on the road and not getting out of the way in time.

- People wait when someone manoeuvers with his car. (Incredible).

- No graffity in the subway or on houses, of course Europe is full of this. Yeah i know, New York is different.....

- Streets always are clean, no paper or empty cans on the streets or highway. Besides there could be a fine of $1000 for doing this.

- No smoking in public places. Whaw, liked that very much.

- Not many drive to fast. Overhere if you drive your 75 miles (120 km) you get pushed from the road. If you do not go out of the way, you will be aproached aggresively.

100 miles is no exception in Belgium.

- You ALWAYS get a friendly reply when you ask a question. Do this in Brussels and people will pass you without answering or looking at you.

- When entering the subway, nobody pushes you aside.

- Take the metro or bus and people BEHAVE. The busdriver usually a woman, has autority. Overhere busdrivers usually are men and they get molested for no reason.

- So once in a while (in Belgium) people are on strike because of some bus driver gets a beating.

- Police officers are respected. Haha, what a difference. Overhere they do not have any autority what so ever.

- Work gets done FAST, example. The Hoover dam was build (1931-1935), overhere the main street of Antwerp just needs another look, refreshment. They started on august 4th 2002 and still nothing is finished. It will take probably another 5-6 years for a street 4-5 miles in length.

- Gasoline is cheap, like $2,00 per gallon (3,785 liters), giving you a price of $ 0,53 per liter. We pay almost 50 Belgian franks per liter or $ 1,40 or $5,40 per gallon.

Of course on some gasoline stations overhere you can get it a bit cheaper, but not much.

- Did i mention that Americans are very disciplinated.

Minor points for the U.S.

- Indications on the highway are not accurate. Sure there is a bord on the right side saying the double road goes back to one. But when you pass a truck who hides the plate, there is not sign on the ground to help you, costing us almost an accident.

- Breakfast sucks bigtime. After a week i skipped breakfast, drinking only some coffee in the morning. Whatever you take in the morning it all taste the same. Besides cakes, donuts, anything was full of fat.

- I find it difficult to had more minor points, there are not many, not for me anyway.

- So yes, i definitly will visit the states again.

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You saw the good side of America. Come down to Philly. They'd change your views. lol j/k

You were in a portion of the nation that's probably some of the nicest unless you went into a ghetto or the sort.

Besides cakes, donuts, anything was full of fat.

Order something healthier. I personally like bread and eggs for breakfast.

Not many drive to fast. Overhere if you drive your 75 miles (120 km) you get pushed from the road. If you do not go out of the way, you will be aproached aggresively.

There are desert places in Cali where you can drive over 100mph and the cops won't care. My uncle went 120mph in his Viper and no ticket what so ever. I'd love those conditions!

No graffity in the subway or on houses, of course Europe is full of this.

Yea you defintely missed the slums. I kinda like some of the graffity though. The artwork is good but the action is an annoyance.

<<satire>>

Police officers are respected.

Police brutality goes a long way. :P

<<</end satire>>>

You see overall Americans are nice people and we love all. There are a few rotten apples but that's everywhere. Now go spead the word in Belgium that we're not evil. :D

So yes, i definitly will visit the states again.

Glad you liked it. Come back soon.

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You saw the good side of America. Come down to Philly. They'd change your views. lol j/k

You were in a portion of the nation that's probably some of the nicest unless you went into a ghetto or the sort.

Besides cakes, donuts, anything was full of fat.

Order something healthier. I personally like bread and eggs for breakfast.

Not many drive to fast. Overhere if you drive your 75 miles (120 km) you get pushed from the road. If you do not go out of the way, you will be aproached aggresively.

There are desert places in Cali where you can drive over 100mph and the cops won't care. My uncle went 120mph in his Viper and no ticket what so ever. I'd love those conditions!

No graffity in the subway or on houses, of course Europe is full of this.

Yea you defintely missed the slums. I kinda like some of the graffity though. The artwork is good but the action is an annoyance.

<<satire>>

Police officers are respected.

Police brutality goes a long way. :P

<<</end satire>>>

You see overall Americans are nice people and we love all. There are a few rotten apples but that's everywhere. Now go spead the word in Belgium that we're not evil. :D

So yes, i definitly will visit the states again.

Glad you liked it. Come back soon.

Yes Q, i know i saw the good side of the U.S.

BUT I MADE THE COMPARISON WITH THE GOOD SIDE OF EUROPE.

I am sure if you go to Eastern Europe things will be worse then in West-Europe.

Quote: "Order something healthier. I personally like bread and eggs for breakfast. "

You can hardly expect me to eat bread and eggs for 25 days. You should come to Belgium. Overhere there is SOOOOO many choice for breakfast that it is impossible to taste everything in one morning.

Quote: "There are desert places in Cali where you can drive over 100mph and the cops won't care. My uncle went 120mph in his Viper and no ticket what so ever. I'd love those conditions"

True, but overhere Ferrari's drive 156 mph (250 km) and are getting caught.....They drive 156 mph because the cars are limited to that speed...

Quote: "Yea you defintely missed the slums. I kinda like some of the graffity though. The artwork is good but the action is an annoyance."

The problem is youngsters or drug addicted persons like to use graffity, but they never use it on the house of their parents....

Quote: "Police brutality goes a long way."

I was talking about respect police officers do have in the states, even if not everybody respects them.

Overhere they are not feared or respected in ANY WAY.

Quote: "You see overall Americans are nice people and we love all. "

True, returned to Belgium october 11th. The day after at a supermarket i do not visit that often, had to ask where i could find the toilettes and the answer was "OVERTHERE, CAN'T YOU READ". My god......

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True, but overhere Ferrari's drive 156 mph (250 km) and are getting caught.....They drive 156 mph because the cars are limited to that speed...

:droooool:

The problem is youngsters or drug addicted persons like to use graffity, but they never use it on the house of their parents....

Lol they keep their crack houses clean at least.

Yes Q, i know i saw the good side of the U.S.

BUT I MADE THE COMPARISON WITH THE GOOD SIDE OF EUROPE.

:/

I didn't have a bad experience in England. I din't leave the Belgin airoport city so I can't really talk much about Belgium. Most people who do travel the world tell me people are all pretty much alike.

Awhile back in Philadelphia I asked a worker where was West train line and he said "Go READ the sign!". It's all spirit of the person.

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"Awhile back in Philadelphia I asked a worker where was West train line and he said "Go READ the sign!". It's all spirit of the person. "

True Q, this happens in every city, BUT exceptions make the rule.

I mean it happens less in the part of the states i was in.

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Hi

Generally I have noticed that people see where they live in a negative light, and anywhere they visit in a positive light. I'm not sure if it's the novelty of being somewhere else, or just the natural human desire to find something better than what you already have that colours perceptions. I'm sure if you lived there for 10 years you'd think that it was just as bad, just in different ways. Same goes for anywhere in the world.

As for the slow driving - that's a negative in my opinion :D

Dave

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ya, I dont like how americans drive, doing the 'drifting' lane change... where they slowly inch into a lane over 4 or 5 miles... (canadian are more carpe diem, and storm a lane in a few hundered yards... carpe lane?)

There was an american comedian at stampeed. (the calgary stampeed, the greatest outdoor show on earth!) He was going on about the differences between canada and the US... For example, he was distracted one night, as he stoped at an ATM, he left his car running, the car door open, and was counting his money on his way back to the car, when he realized, that if he had been in LA, he would be bleeding on the side walk, watching someone else drive off with his car...

Also Canadian's wave, when they change lanes, if poeple slow down to let you into the lane, Americans can sometimes mis-interpert this gesture....

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fvo,

If you come to The South you'ld even get a waitress that calls you Honey. "What would you like to eat, Honey?"

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As for the slow driving - that's a negative in my opinion  :D

Amen :).

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DIFFERENCE U.S. VERSUS EUROPE. VISITED ONLY CALIFORNIA NEVADA UTAH AND COLORADO

The U.S. is a big place; big enough that for every city that matches any of these points, there will be a city that is the diametric opposite. I don't think you can really make any general comparisons unless you narrow it down to a U.S. state vs. a European country or part of a country.

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fvo,

If you come to The South you'ld even get a waitress that calls you Honey. "What would you like to eat, Honey?"

I wish that happened in Europe as well. At least we would live in a more frienly place. On the other hand if in Europe, especially Belgium, someone would call a man "honey", he definitly would look for more contact, although the waitress just wanted to be friendly.

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US SUCKS!!!

EU ROCKS!!!

BELGIUM RULES 'EM ALL

hehe  couldn't resist  ;)

"All time high" King?

Give me some of that "stinker", so i can look at Belgium in a better way. :)

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Hey, I like Belgium. I have fond memory of Belgium when we visited there. Belgium waffle, seafood, chocolate, yum. We had one of our best meal in Europe at a Belgium hotel. Our tour guide told us to enjoy as it might be the last meal we're used to or like...he was correct for the most part but I tend to be more adventurous than common American on food and enjoyed many other meals as well. After tasting delicacies of various nations, I think lutefisk, sustromming, blue cheese, still turns me away but I can tolerate a wide variety of delicacies as well as differences in cooking.

I like western and southern Europe. But, Italy can drive me nuts after I'm used to "more efficient" societies in Asia and USA. In Italy, when our hotel has a ladder in the bathroom, I was promised our room will be ready by dinner time when we checked in at noon. After dinner, still got a ladder in our bathroom and it took me some time to get a room switch.

Although I enjoy Italian food, coffee, and laid back attitude, I just don't like that attitude when things aren't working so to speak, it can drive me insane trying to fix things when I am used to problems being taken care of, and quickly, such as USA, Japan, China, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, etc.

Also, like others have pointed out, USA is a big place and it varies greatly. You should go visit Texas, Texas is kinda like another nation inside USA, it has the potential to be an eye-opener for some foreigners...

About ten years ago, when there were a couple fast food restraunt shootings, I heard this joke about Texas.

In Texas, a man walks into a McDonald restraunt and pulls out a gun, he was promptly shot by over ten guns and died on the spot....I thought it was a joke, it was but the attitude speak volume. You can see Texans with gun rack in their car... :) If you love cowboys, red necks, jingoism at its best, go visit Texas.

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Blitzkrieg, Texas maybe another time. Since you talk of city tours, here is some info on a LA tour:

You visit Beverly Hills to see the house of Madonna and Britney Spears (if they still own it right now).

Columbo lives in the house of the late Dean Martin. The house of Aaron Spelling is H U G E. It costed 45 million dollars......20 years ago.

Hugh Hefner from Playboy lives with 7 (seven) wives in his mansion, his ex-wife lives in the house next door. Every thursday night the 7 woman have to leave the house, because then the ex comes along with the kids to have a family reunion....

The stars on Hollywood Boulevard are paid by those who are allowed to have a star. After 5 years of succes you can get one in every discipline like singing, acting, song writing. The more in the center, the more it costs. $ 20 000 for a star is cheap. So paying for a star is only good for your own ego.

When i was in LA Christopher Walken had the honour to put his hands and feet in a stone right in front of the Chinese building, next to the Kodac center where the Oscars festivity is old. There are only 3500 places and that evening 12 blocks are isolated so the stars will not be bothered by the lower class.

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I have always thought of Belgium as Holland without the drugs and the junkies. ;)

Need to visit our "capital" sometime. Long live the EU!

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sure dude, you like really need to get rid of some bad vibes

you radiate negativity all over the place

Whereas your negativity radiation has far more focus, eh? ;)

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I have always thought of Belgium as Holland without the drugs and the junkies. ;)

Need to visit our "capital" sometime. Long live the EU!

Hah. They don't even speak the same language. Sure, it's also called Dutch but it's different - alien ;)

Dutchmen and Belgians are different enough that you'd notice when you've been around both for a time.

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Of course King, I was only joking.

To be totally frank, I'm more of the Flamand-part of Belgium, I kind of dislike anything that has to do with the French. I hope you're based in the "right" part of your country. It's half-half right?

Brussels is one of the few EU capitals that haven't visited yet. But I'm planning for it. :)

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It's more like 60% Dutch and 40% French. But for some reason the french socialists seem to think they're boss...

I hope you enjoy your visit in Brussels. Some parts are nice but I dislike the city. Many areas are run down and - you'll like this one - the vast majority of people there speak French :) If I can I avoid Brussels entirely, especially the ringway which usually resembles a parking lot more than a highway. The center is ok though but be prepared to speak French as there are many people in Brussels (typically immigrated from Wallonia and EU-types) who can't or flat-out refuse to speak Dutch. People outside Brussels, both in Flanders and Wallonia, tend to be more friendly than the nice people of our capital but I think this can be blamed on the type that goes to live there.

Nicer cities are Antwerp (lots of infrastructure work going on for the moment though), Gent, Brugge and Leuven.

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"It's more like 60% Dutch and 40% French. But for some reason the french socialists seem to think they're boss..."

But THEY are the boss King, as if you do not know this.....

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I thought the only minority to rule a majority was happening in Iraq under Saddam's Sunnites... please explain better. How the hell the French minority has the upper hand? The Dutch-people can't elect better representatives since they are the majority?

HMTK, I'm aware of the smaller cities, actually those are the small beautiful cities I have in mind. I always visit capitals cause they probably propose all aspects of a country's people, for the museums, etc. It's not only the capital of your country anymore HMTK, I feel it's the executive [greater] capital of mine as well. :)

I have to pay a visit to see who's da man and who governs our vast 350 million 25-country territory. (not that I will see more than building, but you know hope dies last, yada yada...)

Well, perhaps I'm one of those few simple people who don't lament that the change to Euro has only brought bad things to are wallets. I feel I'm one of those persons that have grown in a great place (I have nothing to crave from the US as I had when I was smaller) and I like the idea behind the EU.

Take into account that: I'm a Greek citizen, studying in Italy, going on vacation in Spain, planning for medical graduate training in Germany and understanding (or at least I try to...) French jokes. All using the same currency! :)

More or less, I'm a "product" of this new unified EU, I like the idea and my nationalism has reached a nadir to the point I declare first I'm European and then Greek. Hope we continue to be unified in our diversity and spank Americans for years to come... :D

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But I'll never vote for those good-for-nothing Greens, King, never!! :lol:

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BRUSSELS, BELGIUM is infested with Moslems.

Almost everyday my friend and I almost got into physical arguments with them on the metro (We wear skullcaps).

One time I was at the cleaners waiting for my clothes in Brussels and these three Moslems walk by. One hideous woman wearing her towel accompanied by two men. One of them was average size the other one was pretty big.

They happen to look inside and yell some vulgarity in Arabic at me. Then they were waiting outside for me. Eventually they went away.

Another friend of mine who lives in Brussels was once attacked in the Metro by Moslems. Security came right away and broke it up, and he filed a complaint with the police and they never did anything to my knowledge.

All the taxi drivers are Moslems. On the way out of Belgium, I took a taxi to the airport and I had been sick the few days before and when the taxi came to pick me up I saw it was a Moslem. I really wasn't in the mood for any arguments. He starts arguing away with me on the way and tells me how Sharon is killing his brothers.

I told him that Sharon is not doing enough. We need someone else to kill more.

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