Jeff Poulin

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  1. I think drives used to be a big bottleneck up until 5-10 years ago. When ATA drives (and later SATA drives) became much faster and UDMA became the norm, the difference between ATA and SCSI for desktop use started to diminish. Nowadays with big/fast/cheap drives and 2-4GB of RAM on many desktops, drive speed is even less of a factor. With enough RAM, almost everything becomes read cached in short order. Drive speed is still important for write intensive applications or in servers where random I/O is the norm, but outside of that, it's getting harder to justify big investments in drives because the return on investment just isn't what it used to be.
  2. Nice stats! Too bad it wasn't around a year ago when I was looking to buy faster drives. I don't know how well it's going to sell at $1/gig though. Seems a bit steep when much larger drives are going for considerably less and are quite good performers in their own right. Still, it's nice to see WD making improvements to the Raptor line after all these years.
  3. You fool! You could have run two 40-drive RAID0 arrays!!! (just kidding, of course) Nice to know the Raptors held up as well as they did. That was an impressively powerful server you built in 2005. What did you replace it with?
  4. It's a long-shot, but have you tried putting the controller card in another slot? If that doesn't work, try disabling the SATA ports in the bios. Kind of a funny board to use with SCSI, though.
  5. You need to install the LSI SCSI driver in the operating system. Did the controller card come with a driver disk?
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    lsilogic pcie scsi hba

    I didn't forget about this thread. My controller card got held up in customs, so it arrived a little late. It's installed now and I ran a few benchmarks. First, the setup: the computer is a dell poweredge with a xeon 3060 CPU, 4GB RAM, running 32-bit debian linux (I plan to test it in 64-bit linux later). It's running kernel 2.6.18 (old, I know, but it's the one that comes with debian stable). There are 4 SCSI drives: a 147GB Maxtor Atlas 15K II on it's own U160 controller, and three 300GB Maxtor Atlas 10K 5 drives on the LSI controller. The controller is in an X8 PCIe slot. I put the 3 10K drives in software RAID0 to test the throughput of the controller card. By themselves, each drive has the following read rate: # hdparm -t /dev/sd[bcd] /dev/sdb: Timing buffered disk reads: 256 MB in 3.02 seconds = 84.72 MB/sec /dev/sdc: Timing buffered disk reads: 256 MB in 3.02 seconds = 84.83 MB/sec /dev/sdd: Timing buffered disk reads: 256 MB in 3.02 seconds = 84.65 MB/sec Here's a speed test reading 8GB from the raw RAID0 device: # dd if=/dev/md0 of=/dev/null bs=1048576 count=8192 8192+0 records in 8192+0 records out 8589934592 bytes (8.6 GB) copied, 35.6257 seconds, 241 MB/s And here is how fast it can write 8GB to the device: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/md0 bs=1048576 count=8192 8192+0 records in 8192+0 records out 8589934592 bytes (8.6 GB) copied, 54.5497 seconds, 157 MB/s So the individual drives get about 84MB/sec sequential reads on the outer zone and 241MB/sec when in RAID0. That's an efficiency of about 96%. More importantly, it shows the card is capable of sustaining a transfer of at least 241MB/sec over 8GB.
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    Seagate Prices up?

    Maybe it's because there's a big holiday coming up. In about 19 days, the prices should start to come down.
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    lsilogic pcie scsi hba

    I went ahead and ordered the LSI20320IE. It's arriving by international mail, so it'll take a couple weeks to get here. When it does, I'll report back on how well it performs. This will be for a linux workstation, though, so I won't be able to comment on Windows driver performance.
  9. It should detect it just fine. LSI chipsets have had drivers in the linux kernel for years. That card uses the 53c1020 chipset, I believe. I used to run my linux systems with their older 53c1010 chipset (U160) and they ran fine.
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    lsilogic pcie scsi hba

    I haven't been able to find any reviews either, but it's an interesting card. I'm in a similar situation. I have a 147GB Atlas 15K II and 300GB Atlas 10K V in my workstation running off an old Adaptec 29160 in a 32-bit PCI slot. I looked at the 29320lpe, but one thing I didn't like about it is that it's a 1x card, so it maxes out at 250MB/s. I know my drives aren't pushing that kind of bandwidth now, but if I add more, I could conceivably get that high. If I spend that much to buy a 320MB/s card, I want to get a 320MB/s limit. Otherwise, it's like running a 160MB/s card with a 32-bit PCI slot. The 4x LSILogic card would give me the maximum rated bandwidth, but unfortunately, I can't find any around here (France).
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    I'm in France. I think the shipping to Australia would be prohibitively expensive since international postal rates are very high here. Also, I should apologize as my comment wasn't intended to offer one of my drives for sale. I was just pointing out that this revision number appears to be common so you should have no difficulty finding one locally. In the worst case, you could find one from the U.S. which has relatively cheap international shipping fares. Dave Bell's e-bay link might be a good start if you go that route.
  12. I'm not familiar with ATTO, but the HD Tach scores are about right. You seem to be conflating the interface speed of SAS with the hard drive speed. They're not the same.
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    I have two WD3200KS-00PFB0 drives in my system as well. Fortunately for you, it appears these are a common revision number.
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    WOW storage review site is alive again!

    Nice to see this place coming back to life again. 4 articles in the last week! Thanks, Eugene.
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    Last update for WD1500ADFD

    What's the difference in the firmware? More importantly, when are they going to release a 300GB SATA2 version? The 1500ADFD is 1.5 yrs old now, and it's getting harder to justify buying such an old model for a new system.
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    Most reliable 500g HD to use as a backup?

    They're all about the same. Run your system off a UPS to smooth out power spikes and brown outs, don't move or bump your drives while they're spinning, and keep your drives cool during operation. If you do that, almost any 500GB drive will run for ages. If you're that worried about reliability, run a RAID1 backup, or keep multiple backups.
  17. For XFS mount options, try logbufs=8,noatime,nodiratime,nobarrier
  18. Very impressive. It wasn't that long ago that those read/write rates were typical for system RAM. What kind of case do you have where you can install 12 drives?
  19. Well, the numbers speak for themselves. What host controller did you use? Which kernel? What kind of motherboard, CPU, and how much RAM?
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    For sale DELL 146GB 15k RPM

    I may be interested. How can you be reached?
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    Need a source for Knoppix 3.2 ISO

    Hmmm, good question. 3.2 came out in March 2003. Even only goes back to 3.6 (August 2004). You can buy it for $1.75 from cheapiso at this link:
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    A question on Seagate's warranty

    Hey, thanks for the suggestion! Okay, I just called them and they confirmed the drive does have a 5-year warranty. They're not sure why Seagate's database shows otherwise or why Seagate's customer service rep repeatedly stated the drive was out of warranty. However, they said I could RMA the drive back to HyperMicro and they would replace it for free. I have to admit, I was surprised by this offer. The HM customer service person was actually very nice on the phone. I'm not sure why HM didn't respond to any of the 3 separate e-mails I sent over the past 3 weeks, but at this point, I'm just happy to get this resolved. If this return goes well, then I would definitely be willing to put HM back on my preferred vendor list.
  23. I have a question regarding Seagate possibly not honoring a 5-year warranty and am posting it here to get ideas on how I can pursue this. In September 2003, I bought a new Seagate 15K.3 73GB SCSI drive (model ST373453LW) from Hypermicro for $490. Unfortunately, the drive died yesterday. The data was backed up, so that wasn't a problem. However, I'm having difficulty getting this drive replaced. I went to Seagate's warranty web page to request an RMA, but their page said my warranty expired in December 2003 (3 months after purchase). I think this is an error since, to the best of my knowledge, Seagate has always had 5 year warranties on their SCSI drives (long before they started doing this with ATA and SATA models). I wrote to Seagate, but they just reiterated the expiration date on the web site and said that models bought on or after June 1st, 2004 are covered under a 5 year warranty, but models bought before June 1st, 2004 have just a 1 year warranty. I know I've had 5 year warranties on other Seagate SCSI units purchased before 6/1/2004, so I'm skeptical of the accuracy of this information. At this point, I'm not sure what to do. I can't get an RMA from Seagate's web site and I'm not getting anywhere with their customer service department ( First, does anyone know if Seagate's SCSI drives had just a 1 year warranty in 2003? If so, I'll drop this matter since it's out of warranty. However, if this drive originally had a 5 year warranty (which was my understanding when I bought it), I'd like to return it. Am I stuck with this dead drive or is there something else I can do?
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    A question on Seagate's warranty

    I just thought I'd follow up on this after a couple weeks. I sent 3 e-mails to over the past 2-1/2 weeks (on May 31st, June 3rd, and June 9th). All the e-mails asked about the warranty information of this drive and provided details such as seagate part number and serial number, hypermicro sales invoice number and sales order number (they're different), my hypermicro customer number, and a brief description of the problem. To date, I have recieved no replies. I got the e-mail address from Hypermicro's web site (under the "contact us" link), so it should be good. I'm beginning to think this is a dishonest company or is on the verge of going out of business (In the past, I've noticed companies go from good service to really bad service just before they went bankrupt). So, that's it. I buy dozens of high-end drives for myself and my company each year, but I'll never buy another from HyperMicro.
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    Newbie with a HD problem losing his mind.

    Kind of a silly question, but when you installed the cable, did you plug the blue end into the motherboard and the other end in the drive? If not, you'll want to do that.