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About grogthegreat

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  1. Bummer. I was hoping this would be the first 4 platter 4TB drive.
  2. This isn't a 4 platter drive? 1TB platter drives have been out a long time now. There really isn't any excuse why this isn't a 4 platter drive other than cost savings.
  3. My preferred method at work is a large hammer. Lots of fun and it's free!
  4. grogthegreat

    STEC s840 Enterprise SSD Review Discussion

    Thanks for the reply. I think I might borrow your patented price tracking technique. The MLC drives do have a huge price advantage although the price difference between consumer and enterprise is a little over the top in this case. I work in the IT field for a small/medium sized business and normally the extra cost of enterprise equipment is money well spent. With those prices however it seems like a business could just use consumer drives (which work in SAS chassis) and just replace them as they fail or wear out. Even if a business has to replace all of their consumer SSDs every year compared to every four years for a enterprise drive, it would still save quite a bit of money. This huge price difference doesn't exist between SATA and SAS HDDs.... I see your point on why review sites can't review as much enterprise equipment as they would want. Buying a $5k SSD, reviewing it, and then selling it on ebay for a large loss would just end up costing way to much. That is just another good reminder to be cautious of things you can't find third party reviews for. -Grog
  5. grogthegreat

    STEC s840 Enterprise SSD Review Discussion

    Couldn't any site just buy a drive, test it, and post the results? I have a harder time believing a paid review would be unbiased. As for the SSD in this review, what is the price? How does it compare price-wise to the other drives in the performance charts? The choice of MLC memory in the place of SLC was clearly made for a cost reasons so I think prices are critical for a reader who wants the best bang for his business's buck and is trying to decide if the reduced price of a MLC drive is worth the tradeoff. -Grog
  6. We've had 1TB platter tech for about a year now. Why are they coming out with more 5 platter 4TB drives?
  7. If they can get the price and warranty competitive (aka no massive price premium) than these will sell like crazy. No RAID5 for these guys! With the slow write speed compared to the massive size, a raid5 rebuild would take too long with a high chance of an URE. I'd only feel safe using raid6 on these big guys.
  8. Good point. I completely forgot about the encoding overhead.
  9. There is a mistake in that speed chart. It says that SAS 6Gbps operates at 4800MBps which isn't correct. 6Gbps X 4 Lanes per connector X 2 connectors per card = 48Gb/s 48Gb/s does not equal 4,800MBps. 48Gb/s= 6144MBps The same mistake was made for SAS 12Gb
  10. grogthegreat

    Western Digital Q3 2012 Discussion

    Of course when one of the two remaining companies takes a huge hit on their production capability, you expect prices for all drives to increase. Seeing most consumer drives double or triple in cost is a little ridiculous but I can't do anything about it other than refuse to buy drives and wait. The big question will be, once production meets demand again, will prices fall back down to what they were before? Even if they do, that in my book means that they are still significantly higher than what prices would be had the flood never happened and prices had continued to drop as normal. What really killed me is when WD and Seagate both announced that they were cutting warranties within 24 hours of each other. I've worked in the business world enough to know that it takes way more than 24 hours to make a huge change like reducing warranties. This means that one company wasn't reacting to the other. So either both companies were coincidentally planning on cutting their warranties and just happened to announce at the same time (not likely) or they are secretly working together instead of competing. When the only two companies left are clearly not competing in terms of warranties, than why would anyone delude themselves into thinking that they are competing on price? I suspect that they will eventually be caught price fixing but it will be years from now and by that time the only victim will be the consumers.
  11. grogthegreat

    Western Digital Q3 2012 Discussion

    What was WD's shipment numbers before the flood? Since Seagate is already operating at normal volumes, the only excuse for the high prices was WD. With WD now meeting demand, prices, in theory, should drop back down to normal levels. Last I checked, the 3TB drive I want more of is still double the price it was when I bought some late last summer. I have yet to buy a HDD post flood and I will continue to do so till prices drop back down to normal. Johnw42: I agree on the lack of 4TB drives using 1TB platters. Innovation has really slowed down in the HDD industry in the last year or so. 1TB platter have been out for almost a year now. I won't be buying any 4TB drives till they have 1TB platters and the price is under $150.
  12. Good point. I hope I can find the 9266-4i for $400 since that will let me get CacheCade2.0 plus the SSDs.
  13. I completely missed the moved ports as it is something I normally don't look for. I still don't understand why the large price difference between the two, but maybe I'll just look at the 9265-8i as a good deal and leave it at that.
  14. Seems odd to me as well. I feel like I'm missing something important as the 9266 just doesn't make any sense. Same RoC, same cache size/speed, same 8x PCIe2.0 slot, same raid levels and raid features. Unless I'm reading things wrong and the 9266 line comes with CacheCade2.0 and Fastpath already installed than I don't see the point of the 9266-8i. Now I wish they made a 9265-4i since the 9266-4i seems very overpriced for what it is.
  15. Looking at the latest PDFs on LSI website, it seems they did release CacheCade2.0 for the 9265-8i. This means that the only difference I can find between the 9265-8i and the new 9266-8i is that with the 9266-8i, you have the option of paying extra for an add on that uses a capacitor to save the cache to a SSD so you don't need a BBU unit. Considering the fact that you need to pay for this add on, it seems weird to me that the 9266-8i will be $150 more than the 9265-8i.