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    RAID1 Volume Recovery (ICH-9R)

    Choices, choices.... I have a SATA cd writer on the ICH9-R as well.... Do I move the eSata to the jMicron ports? Or do I move the Raid array to the gigabyte raid controller? (No one on this forum seems to use the Gigabyte Raid controller, but I don't know if that's because its wonky or just not as well known/used as Intel) I also just updated the Intel MSM software to 8.5, and the context choices have changed for the bad drive: now there's an Activate Port LED in addition to Mark as Normal. Isn't that for LAN ports?
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    RAID1 Volume Recovery (ICH-9R)

    Uh oh. I left out one important change. I had just hooked up a 750GB Cavalry external disk for backup via eSata a few days earlier. Seemed to be working just fine (still does.) In researching the problem, I came across the following in an online review of the Gigabyte P35C-D3SR (my mobo): As mentioned Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R is based on the ICH9R chip, so this chip controls six of the eight SATA-300 ports available on this motherboard, supporting RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10. These ports are orange. The other two SATA-300 ports and the ATA-133 port are controlled by Gigabyte SATA 2 chip, which is a relabeled Jmicron JMB363 chip, supporting RAID 0, RAID 1 and JBOD. These two ports are purple. What is cool about these two ports is that they support eSATA and this motherboard comes with an adaptor that converts them into eSATA ports. This feature is really good because if you won’t use eSATA devices you can free them to be used by internal devices. This adaptor also puts one peripheral power plug outside the case and an adapter to covert this plug into a SATA power plug, allowing you to feed your external HDD without the need of buying any extra device. I didn't plug this external drive into the purple JMicron ports, I plugged them into the ICH9-R ports -- I didn't realize that only the jMicron ports support eSata. Could this have blown up my RAID 1?
  3. HI SR Readers: About a year ago I plugged two WD 750gbs in to run in RAID 1 (I wanted fault tolerance, not speed.) It doesn't get particularly worked out hard, it's a desktop machine for gaming and general use. I don't boot of it, it's just for storing files. I'd been having odd BSODs that caused reboots in XP Pro.... took off the wireless NIC and went wired and was running for days without a problem. Then the machine seemed to go into sleep mode and wouldn't wake up. Hard power off, reboot, and now I get a message that one of the member drives has completely failed and should be replaced. The drive's a year old and heretofore hadn't had many issues (I had integrity checks run for bad shutdowns, but never a rebuild message.) I've got a solid backup so I'm not worried about losing files, but do I really need to replace this drive? There's a "Mark as Normal" option in Intel MSM - but I can't find anything on what this actually does... if I use it, will MSM try to rebuilt the array? (Trying to find my old copy of Spinrite to test the drive, but have never tried it with a drive in a RAID array) Is it a foregone conclusion that the drive is physically belly up, or can MSM get fooled? MSM Report follows -- any advice welcome Thanks! Thumbkin System Information Kit Installed: 7.5.0.1017 Kit Install History: 7.5.0.1017 Shell Version: 7.5.0.1017 OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600 System Name: CORE2DUO System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. System Model: P35C-DS3R Processor: Intel® Core2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz BIOS Version/Date: Award Software International, Inc. F11, 07/10/2008 Language: ENU Intel® RAID Technology Intel RAID Controller: Intel® ICH8R/ICH9R SATA RAID Controller Number of Serial ATA ports: 6 RAID Option ROM Version: 7.5.0.1017 Driver Version: 7.6.0.1011 RAID Plug-In Version: 7.5.0.1017 Language Resource Version of the RAID Plug-In: 7.5.0.1017 Create Volume Wizard Version: 7.5.0.1017 Language Resource Version of the Create Volume Wizard: 7.5.0.1017 Create Volume from Existing Hard Drive Wizard Version: 7.5.0.1017 Language Resource Version of the Create Volume from Existing Hard Drive Wizard: 7.5.0.1017 Modify Volume Wizard Version: 7.5.0.1017 Language Resource Version of the Modify Volume Wizard: 7.5.0.1017 Delete Volume Wizard Version: 7.5.0.1017 Language Resource Version of the Delete Volume Wizard: 7.5.0.1017 ISDI Library Version: 7.5.0.1017 Event Monitor User Notification Tool Version: 7.5.0.1017 Language Resource Version of the Event Monitor User Notification Tool: 7.5.0.1017 Event Monitor Version: 7.5.0.1017 Array_0000 Status: No active migration(s) Hard Drive Write Cache Enabled: Yes Size: 1397.2 GB Free Space: 0 GB Number of Hard Drives: 2 Hard Drive Member 1: WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 Hard Drive Member 2: WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 Number of Volumes: 1 Volume Member 1: BIGSTORAGE BIGSTORAGE Status: Degraded System Volume: No Volume Write-Back Cache Enabled: No RAID Level: RAID 1 (mirroring) Size: 698.6 GB Physical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Logical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Number of Hard Drives: 2 Hard Drive Member 1: WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 Hard Drive Member 2: WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 Parent Array: Array_0000 Hard Drive 0 Usage: Non-RAID hard drive Status: Normal Device Port: 0 Device Port Location: Internal Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 1 Model: ST3400620AS Serial Number: 5QG13YYE Firmware: 3.AAC Native Command Queuing Support: Yes System Hard Drive: Yes Size: 372.6 GB Physical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Logical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Hard Drive 1 Usage: Non-RAID hard drive Status: Normal Device Port: 2 Device Port Location: Internal Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 1 Model: WDC WD7500AACS-00ZJB0 Serial Number: WD-WCASP0007355 Firmware: 01.01B01 Native Command Queuing Support: Yes System Hard Drive: No Size: 698.6 GB Physical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Logical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Hard Drive 2 Usage: Array member Status: Failed Device Port: 4 Device Port Location: Internal Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 2 Model: WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 Serial Number: WD-WCAPT0087392 Firmware: 30.04G30 Native Command Queuing Support: Yes Hard Drive Write Cache Enabled: Yes Size: 698.6 GB Physical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Logical Sector Size: 512 Bytes Number of Volumes: 1 Volume Member 1: BIGSTORAGE Parent Array: Array_0000
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    ICH9R vs Gigabyte SATA

    Under the Integrated Peripherals menu there's one set of options for the SATA Ports (IDE/ACHI/RAID) and lower down on the same page is a similar set of labels and options -- but neither set of labels says "GSATA" or INTEL or ICH9R -- it was trial and error (the docs with the mobo were so-so). I had the mirror crash early on in my build, and the Intel MSM software started rebuilding the other drive, but when I rebooted it was totally munged (both drives). I was able to decouple the raid through the windows version of MSM and see the files on the drives, but to restore the mirror I had to blank both drives and start over. The ICH9R BIOS options are basically Create Raid Volume/Delete Raid Volume. The GSATA BIOS options have explicit choices for rebuilding the mirror, not just create/delete. Now that I have it running on ICH9R, can I switch it over to GSATA? Will it recognize the existing mirror? (I'd hate to copy all the data over again, it took forever.) Also, previously I had a SATA cd-writer on in the primary SATA pool of ports (Intel) and read somewhere that it was ill-advised -- I moved that connector over to the JMicron ports and I haven't had any problems since, but I can't say with certainty that it caused my RAID issue -- I just don't know.
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    Recovering from RAID 1 failure

    Well here's what happened. I was able to de-couple the RAID 1 and turn them back into singlet drives. But trying to make them both members again of the RAID blanked both drives. Fortunately I didn't have much on them so it wasn't catastrophic but it gave me pause. The Intel Matrix Storage manager doesn't provide nearly as many options for doing anything at all compared to Gigabyte's RAID controls at the BIOS level. I did find that there were issues with the Vista version of the MSM and as I am dual-booting I am wondering if that was the case. (I have since reinstalled the Vista portion with the latest version of MSM and it *seems* to be OK, but obviously I am worried -- I don't want to lose this stuff again. Has anyone encountered this similar problem? Has anyone fdisked a second drive and forced the first one to re-mirror?
  6. More adventures in ICH9R-dom.... So I had two WD 750s set up as a RAID 1 mirror thru the ICH9-R on my Gigabyte DS3R. I turned on the machine and when XP comes up the Intel Matrix Storage app pops up and says the second volume in the RAID needs to be rebuilt, do I want to start that now? I say yes and go to sleep. The next morning I come back and it "seems" to have been rebuilt, but the drives don't appear in My Computer or even in Disk Management. I reboot and during the post the Intel Matrix reports both 750K drives as "Member Offline." There's no option in the RAID configuration to bring the drives back online, only to create or delete volumes. (There's an option to de-RAIDify the drives, but warns it will delete all the data.) The XP management tool also shows the two drives as present and in a RAID configuration but in accessible. I pored through the docs but every reference to "Member" refers to replacing dead drives - but the mobo can clearly see them! Am I screwed? Is my only option to blank the drives and start over? Or is there something I missed?
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    ICH9R vs Gigabyte SATA

    Just an update: used the ICH9-R without a hitch -- only snag was that the labels of the options in the BIOS are a little confusing. Thanks!
  8. Hi SR Experts -- Was about to set up a pair of WD 750Ks (SATA) to run for storage *ONLY* in RAID 1. (The OS -- XP pro 32-bit -- is on a physically separate drive.) My Gigabyte P35 mobo (GA-P35CDS3R) has two options for RAID -- the Intel ICH9R and what it calls Gigabyte SATA II which will do RAID 0 and 1 (but not the other RAID levels of the Intel chip). In terms of capabilities I'm only going to do mirroring, so as far as I know it's a tie. Is there any compelling reason to go with Intel's Matrix RAID over Gigabyte's? Or vice versa? My Googling hasn't turned up anything informative yet. Thanks in advance! Thumbkin
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    AHCI and RAID 1 on ICH9R

    Thanks for the intel and the welcome!
  10. HI SR Gang -- I'm new to these options so bear with me. I just bought a pair of WD 750Ks (SATA) to run for storage *ONLY* in RAID 1. (I will be installing the OS on a physically separate drive.) My OS will be XP 32-bit, running on a Gigabyte P35 mobo (GA-P35CDS3R) I'm a little confused about some of my options. To wit: - The bios seems to offer the option of AHCI OR Raid... does this mean I don't get the benefits of AHCI if I go the RAID route? - Do I still need to install the special RAID drivers from floppy during XP installation if I'm not installing the OS on those RAID drives? Sorry for the newbie questions, but a search of the boards (and Google) didn't seem to point to much that was helpful Thanks Thumbkin