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    Do yourself a huge favor and stay away from anything HighPoint. I have 8 nice hitachi enterprise drives that were part of a raid 6 array that went kaput. Still waiting to recover the data. Their tech support is aweful as well. That card has been nothing but trouble for me. I've used raid 5, raid 6, but they all turn into raid-down. I'll never buy highpoint again. Spend a few extra bucks on 3ware, areca, or adaptec. You will regret buying highpoint if you do.
  2. One of my clients had me setup a small fileserver for them with existing hardware. I got them a Promise 4310 sata raid controller and plugged 2 x 750GB Seagate ST3750330AS drives. Everything seems to be working OK in raid 1. I'm not overly impressed with the speed of these drives. But they're working. However...someone did a hard reboot of the server instead of calling me. The array went critical, and now it's rebuilding. It's at about 40% The only problem is that it started rebuilding over 53 hours ago. 40% complete on a RAID 1 750GB array. What is going on here? Another unusual thing, the drives have always been in 1.5gb/s mode, and I thought the controller was 3.0. But that shouldn't matter at all. The real question is what's going on? This array should rebuild in a few hours. In the Promise WebPAM, I have the rebuild speed set to HIGH as it has always been. Anyone have ideas?
  3. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=250192716492 Topic description says it all. Currently at $75 with free shipping. Brand new. I bought it as a replacement, and then didn't send it back in time so now I can't send it back to Newegg -- off to eBay
  4. I bought a 3ware 9650SE-8LPML PCIe controller I also have a DFI LP UT P35-T2R motherboard The computer will NOT boot or even post for that matter when I install the 3ware card. Upon power-on, I get NO signal to the monitor. I've tried clearing the cmos, disabling all onboard devices, unplugging all devices (even USB keyboard and mouse), and I've tried various bios settings. There is a PCI express setting, with choices of x1 x1 or x4 NC ("no card" I'm guessing it stands for). This is driving me nuts. This computer runs AWESOME, everything runs perfectly, except now for this expansion card. I've heard of people having problems with x4 cards in a x16 slot in P35 and X38, etc Intel motherboards. Is this the problem I'm facing? And is there no solution? Great...scratch the idea of hardware raid, or try a different vendor? The only devices I have in expansion slots are 1) PCIe MSI 8800 Ultra in slot #1 2) PCI SoundBlaster Audigy 4 in slot #5 (PCI slot #2). I removed the soundblaster when I first tried the 3ware, and it didn't work. I've tried the 3ware in both x16 slots. The only x16 slot I did not try it in, is the one occupied by the 8800 ultra video card. I am pissed. I made the assumption that INTEL would have their !@#$ together with this chipset. It's a very nice chipset indeed. Why the problems? Is the mobo vendor to blame? Anyone with a similar problems on a DFI and/or P35-based board?
  5. Thanks for the reply, Continuum. I'm glad someone finally chimes in with some help. I realized right away that I would need to get a new mobo. I'm not going to tolerate stupid BS like this. I will look into those two you recommended. Thanks again.
  6. I'm PISSED right now. I just sent the 3ware care back yesterday, received my HighPoint 3520 today (I was hoping it would work). It does the same thing -- no boot, no post. I spent $550 and $420 on these cards respectively. I spent $260 on the motherboard, which is by far the MOST I have ever spent on a workstation board. To have it not work to specifications...to the point it won't even post when I install expansion cards? WTF. I guess I should have read more before I purchased it. I would just assume these days, since PCIe has been out for so long, everything would be implemented correctly and working. SOBs. Other than this problem, this motherboard is quite nice, tweakable as hell, runs fast as hell, very stable. But the fact that I can't use expansion cards is unacceptable and unforgivable.
  7. I updated the firmware on the 3ware card, using another computer (which booted up fine and worked fine with the card). That did NOT fix my problem -- my computer still will not post when the raid card is installed. I don't know if the chipset (Intel), motherboard (DFI), or adapter (3ware) is to blame here. But a problem definitely exists. I doubt anyone else has gotten this card to work with this motherboard. If so, then the only other device I can think of that's causing the problem is the graphics card. I have to pull the graphics card out to fit an aftermarket heatsink anyhow, so maybe for shits and giggles I'll give it a try and see if that was the problem. Either way, this card is going back and will have to be exchanged for a competitor's card. How unfortunate -- it was supposed to be a very fast and, more importantly, reliable card. Technically I have 4 open SATA ports (2 left on the ICH9R and 2 on another onboard controller) open, but I will not be using these for raid. I have 8 enterprise sata drives that I'm intent on running on a hardware raid controller, raid level 6. This is really disappointing.
  8. xSAKx

    AHCI and RAID 1 on ICH9R

    Shouldn't you be thanking gigabyte for the intel? Welcome to the P35 club though. I'm a new member of this club myself. So far, I haven't had any experiences I can complain about with the controller. A little tinkering and you can get to know it well. Also, you might want to download the latest drivers/utility for that controller directly from Intel in case Gigabyte is giving you the old version. Latest is 7.60..1011 Raid 5 seems to work pretty nicely with this controller as well. Initialization is a bear tho P.S. - Intel has an F6 floppy with the same driver version on there. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I took the time to snag that as well before installing Windex
  9. Playing with it some more last night...I tried to verify the volumes...and they could not be verified because they hadn't been initialized yet. So now I'm waiting for that again. Sigh.
  10. That's what I'm getting when I try to install WindexP Professional SP2 on my DFI LP UT P35-T2R's onboard ICH9R raid. I'm running 4x Hitachi UltraStar A7K1000s 750GB setup as a raid 5 array on the onboard controller. Here's the message I sent to DFI to seek a solution:
  11. Indeed, that's what happened. Also, after waiting through the long...long...terribly long...almost 24 hours of "Initialization" I found that Windows XP will NOT read from the drive. I used a drive benchmarking program, and got a score of 55,000 MB/s (oh yeah ) The line went literally off the chart -- it was pretty amusing. The working drive was reading at around 160MB/s which doesn't seem to be too bad with write-back off. I can handle those speeds I suppose -- hopefully be able to squeeze more on the other array volume with write-back on. The disk will show up in device manager, but not in disk manager. In device manager it says "unreadable." This was obviously extremely disappointing and frustrating after waiting all of that initialization time. Apparently the 2TB limit is on DISKS and not just partitions. I always thought it was just partitions...but you learn by doing it So I just scrapped the entire array, volumes, everything. Went back into the Intel ICH9V Raid bios, and created a new array with two volumes (even though intel calls is two arrays in their bios). The volumes show up at disks devices in windows -- naming is quite nice too by the way. I created one 100GB volume (which write-back will be disabled) and the remaining volume is a little under 2 TB. Installed windows (it was literally faster than backing everything up and restoring) again. This time, my large array volume did NOT need to be initialized (still wondering why that is). Perhaps initialization is ONLY if you create the array in windows using the Intel Matrix Storage Manager? OK, so good. No initialization -- that's great. The disks are both in device manager, with proper remaining space, partitions, etc. I created a few partitions on the BIG array volume (they will be temporary partitions). I'm formatting one right now -- it's 1200GB in size. It's...20% done right now. It should be done in a couple hours. The remaining ~800GB partition I will start right before going to bed and they both should easily be done before I wake up. Moral of the story: Don't create your ICH9R raid arrays in windows using the Matrix Storage Manager, or you may have to suffer endless initialization. On the bright side of things: the performance seems to be quite good. I haven't tried it since the reformat -- but I will try it tomorrow and take a few screenshots for everyone. I'll be interested to see what write-back does to performance. I plan on having it ON (increases performance but decreases reliability, right?) for my big volume, and off for my boot volume. The big volume will be repartitioned, btw. Those two big partitions are just for some playing around and some data recovery. So a little more testing tomorrow. If I can get the storage and data recovery straightened out, then I get to get into the fun stuff - OCing and stress testing the setup with some games Then the box goes into production as my main workstation and I probably won't be able to game much
  12. I didn't realize I had posted this. I haven't tried the floppy directly from Intel. Intel's driver support is pretty cryptic. It's hard to determine what the right driver for the job is. I came across some "Matrix Storage..." software for the chipset, and it referred to certain revisions of the chip...like I have any idea which revision DFI used here. I don't feel like ripping off the heatsink to find out. Anyhow, I DID solve the problem. Apparently, if you create one large raid 5 array (single volume) the controller doesn't wish to allow you to boot from it. Once you create a smaller (I haven't played with it to see where the cutoff is) array, you can boot from it. Then I just created a second array (or pretty much a volume) from the remaining space -- which was forced. It's still going through initialization right now. So in 15 hours or whatever I'll do some testing and let you guys know what kind of performance I'm able to squeeze from this. Then tomorrow, I will hopefully have my hardware array going on this machine as well. So we can do software vs. hardware on the same box. I'm guessing it's going to take a lot of tinkering to get decent performance from the ICH9R. Raid is so touchy when it comes to performance, and software raid seems to be the most touchy.
  13. I need to order one of these on Monday. I'm setting up a new 8 drive raid 6 array. Hoping for problem-free operation this time. I will probably never buy a HighPoint card again. Anyways. I've been trying to find NICE head-to-head benchmarks featuring both of these cards - to no avail. I'll keep looking, but I'm not having much luck. I've also been reading the forums posts all over the net to try to get a feel for which card is better. There is really no consensus. I've heard a lot of claims that the 3ware 9650SE is faster (uses a faster processor supposedly and also performs better in raid 5/6 than the Areca), but then I've heard claims that the Areca is faster than the 3ware. Anyone else wind up in a situation deciding between these 2 cards? I would love to hear some real knowledge/experience/insight into the raid 5/6 performance of these two cards. Something is also to be said about overall stability, data integrity, etc. Really, the main purpose of the array is failsafe (hence raid 6 as opposed to raid 5) storage. But I would also like to go for speed too. I'm going to bench the array vs. my onboard array and see which will give me faster reads for stuff like games Thanks ahead of time for any help. I'm leaning towards the 9650SE right now, but I'm still open to any better insight into this.
  14. I don't know if Hitachi makes 1TB drives in their Ultrastar family... I just picked up 4 Ultrastar A7K1000s (750GB). They were $20-30 more than the regular 7K1000s...but claim to have a "target MTBF" of 1.2million hours... hopefully they have the same performance as well, with added reliability! This might be something you want to check out and see if they're available.
  15. If I'm not mistaken, the outside of the platter is the fastest for sequential transfer rates. However, the inside of the platter is fastest for access time -- so if you have a lot of small little OS files, or frequently-accessed swap file, etc -- the inside is the fastest. It depends on how you're using the computer, most of all. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
  16. My mobo is a DFI LP UT P35-T2R -- I haven't seen anything about compatibility problems with the 9650SE...do you know of any with Intel P35-based boards? As for the spare card -- great advice, but I don't currently have spare $$ to throw at such a luxury
  17. My application is mostly data storage. It will be a workstation mostly, and occasionally be a server for a small network (when I'm working on other computers and need a place to dump data or grab data). So, really, files will just be sitting there mostly not being accessed. There won't be any intense applications accessing the array at all really. If I ever get free time, I might actually fire up a game (haven't done so in years), that's about it So really, I'm after best possible security with this one. Best reliability - all of that.
  18. I have a serious raid array problem. I purchased 4 WD3200AAKS drives through Newegg. One of the original 4 was bad, then the replacement (same channel) was reportedly bad. Now a third drive is reported bad (different channel this time) (array goes down and errors on rebuilding every time). So since I've replaced 3 frigging drives, it's been working OK for about 3 weeks. Well, last night it gave the alarm again, and I shut it down. I have a number of systems kept in a space that can get pretty hot at times. All of my hard drives are cooled with a mounted thin drive cooler (with dual 60mm fans on each I believe). So they drives themselves should NOT get too hot. So I shut the system down to let it cool off a bit and attempted to boot today. Windows keeps wanting to do a disk check on one of the RAID volumes. Oh, my computer boots off a different RAID device -- so the controller/array with the problems is NOT used for boot purposes. Every time it would want to do a disk check on one of the volumes of the problematic raid array, and then the disk check would freeze every time. It would freeze if I bypassed the disk check by pressing any key, OR if I allowed it to go through the disk check (it didn't find any bad sectors or anything either). So this got REALLY annoying. So I unplugged the raid controller and booted up without it. I did a simple reg hack to prevent windows from doing the disk check. Now at the moment when the disk check would normally begin it just brings up a black screen and stays frozen. So I can't get into windows to repair my array. I can't get into Windows at all with the array plugged in. What to do? The controller is a Highpoint 1741 or whatever it is. Any ideas? I really wanna get this repaired and see if I have a bad drive, or a bad controller, or what. It's hard to believe I could get so many damaged drives like that. I've never had that happen before
  19. I'll never buy a highpoint again -- that's for sure. I tried it under win2k, SAME problem. Won't boot with drives hooked up -- freezes when drives are hooked up after windows is already booted up -- won't repair array. I've got EasyRecovery Pro -- I could try to use that. I'm very anxious about using data recovery software, as files always seem to get screwed up (LOSTFILE or similar directories appear with damaged files). Then there's that serious inconvenience about restoring a terabyte of data...I don't have any TB drives layin around. So I'm going to have a buy a drive or two just to restore this.
  20. still no one has recommendations? I'm going to try running win2k on the box. Then I'm going to have to call up highpoint and beg for their help
  21. I also tried plugging in the drives after windows boots up. This is the only way I can seem to get the array online in windows. After I rescan the raid controller (though Highpoint Raid Management Console), it finds all the drives and says it has started to rebuild the array. Then the program freezes. The computer freezes (not completely) so that I can't use any windows explorer windows, restart windows explorer, or logoff. So I wind up getting stuck with no management console, no windows explorer functionality, etc. I was hoping that the rebuilding process would still go on inthe background, so I let it go all night -- nothing. When I plugin the array, it still says it wants to rebuild. The management console also says it has lost the connection and that it needs to be reestablished. I really need some help here -- I don't want 1TB of my life to disappear. I have some things backed up, but not all.
  22. I've tried uninstalling the drivers for the card, and it still won't boot. Perhaps the only thing I can do is try installing a fresh copy of windows and seeing if it will work?
  23. OK, I need to vent a little. So I buy 4 new WD3200AAKS drives -- very nice drives btw. I bought em to stick in an old computer and have a nice raid 5 array. So I go the cheap route, and decide on software raid under win2k3 server (figured id rather do that than the reg hack). So, I get the array going, start formatting partitions. On my 5th partition, the whole thing goes to hell. Disk manager shows all partitions failing in the raid 5 array. So I'm kinda pissed at this point -- I spent quite some time waiting for those things to format and even transferred tons of files over to some of the partitions and got the files all organized nicely. I attributed the problem to Winblows. This was my first time using windows software raid. So I pickup a highpoint 1740 controller (seems very nice as well) and start from scratch. About a quarter through array setup the alarm goes off and I get an error. The drive on channel 3 is reportedly bad. So I try again just to make sure it wasn't something random, and same thing. So it looks like one of my new drives was a lemon after all. I build a raid 5 array with 3 drives and plan to online-capacity-migrate or whatever the correct term is when I get my replacement drive in. The 3 disk array builds fine, and then when I go to create partitions and format I notice my 2 PATA storage drives in that box (I had "upgraded" them to dynamic disks under windows in XP before) are "offline." Now, they were working JUST FRICKEN FINE before I installed the RAID controller. So WTF happened now?!?! I tried to dabble around and bring them back online with no luck. Brought them to another system and still no luck. Now I'm getting pissed off -- 250GB of MP3s are one one of those disks, and 120GB of DIVX movies on the other. I don't really give a crap about the movies, but the MP3s I would be VERY VERY VERY pissed off about. If I have trouble recovering any of that, I'll send it in to professionals. So, using EasyRecovery Pro on another computer right now (it doesn't run under 2k3 server for some cool reason). Recovering over "fast" ethernet right now -- not so goddamned fast. Hopefully all files recover properly. I wish I would have had a good backup or at least an MD5 of the files to make sure nothing is screwed. Do files ever recover, but not correctly? EasyRecovery seems to be doing a splendid job, even though it's going over a slow network. My MP3 collection is very precious to me. Moral of the story: When dealing with multiple problems on a windows-based machine, you can rest assured that if not all of the problems are caused by the operating system, at least some of them are. Dynamic disks apparently aren't "safer" either, although I've seen claims that they store file system info on multiple physical disks. What a bunch of BS. Question about online capacity change...will the array turn out the same as it would if all drives were setup from the beginning? It doesn't fudge it around to get it to work, does it? After I increase capacity, will it just show up as unpartitioned space on the disk? Anything to know or watch out for? Thanks for the info and listening to my venting. I have so many problems with hard drives it's ridiculous. All other computer components combined don't give me as much grief.
  24. I'm surprised not to see one of these here. There are only a couple of 320 gig drives in the performance database even. I had a really tough time picking out which 320 to buy -- I wound up going with the WD3200AAKS and I hope it was the right choice. 320 is still the magic price/capacity drive I think, it has been for a while, and probably will remain to be for a while longer, unless 400 takes over. With this considered, these drives are popular as heck. We need a good comparison/roundup. I haven't seen any on other sites as well. Talk about suckage (usually other sites suck anyways when it comes to the always-neglected and forgotten storage sector).
  25. I've been wondering about this same thing. For my main power/gaming rig, I want to have at least a 2 drive stripe array for performance. It looks like the 15k II has some awesome results for sequential transfers and other things. The u320 SCSI version is damn cheap too -- like $150 for the 150GB version. Would I be better using an onboard raid controller and having 2 fast raptors striped? Or would I see a big performance increase by going to scsi and striping 2 atlas 15k drives? The seek/access times on the atlas blow the raptor out of the water of course. I see they have an SAS version of the atlas as well, but it's much more expensive. What would be the benefits of going to SAS over SATA or u320 (besides nicer cables vs parallel scsi).