dhanson865

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  1. Agreed, it'll help but it's no guarantee.

    I have way back in the day used a damaged HD to copy files from one PC to another when I had no other option. I copied the files to the HD 3 to 5 times depending on space allowed and it took forever because even during the writing process it'd hit bad sectors, then copying back I had to manually keep track of which ones failed to read and copy them from one of the duplicates. It's a total pain in the rear if it's loose files in a complex directory structure.

    The next time I had that situation (yes unfortunately I had to do this sort of thing more than once), I zipped the files into one larger file and then copied it multiple times. Good news was it was less trouble to see if it worked, bad news was it's all or nothing a corrupted zip file gives you nothing usefull. I had to switch to multiple smaller zip files.

    Of course now days I'd use 7zip instead of pkzip but more importantly I'd consider copying to the disk, burning a CD, and even storing on a $5 usb flash drive (4GB). Each has a different failure mode if you do all 3 maybe one will survive when the other doesn't.


  2. With SSDs finally cheap why bother with WD Black anymore? Just make the WD Blue and Green, and Velociraptor.

    Heck I'd even consider dropping the 3.5 Blue and Black and make a 7200 RPM version of the velociraptor for the new Blue line. Make it 7200 RPM or 8000 RPM or 6000 RPM (since the 10,000 doesn't go by the 1800 rpm multiples I suppose they have leeway to choose any RPM they like for the value version of the velociraptor).

    Right now the internal desktop page shows top capacity by line of

    3TB Green

    2TB Black

    1TB Blue

    1TB Velociraptor

    It's four drives out of two platter sizes. The Black is being squeezed on speed by SSDs and capacity by the Green. Simplify the lines and transition away from excess R&D / materials costs.

    The simplest version would be

    3TB Green

    1TB Velociraptor (10,000 RPM)

    1TB Velociraptor Green or Blue (however they want to market the smaller lower RPM drive)


  3. What are the drives in question?

    IF one is a HDD, try a DOS or live CD based bootable diagnostic program. Also, there might a BIOS option related to SMART, so check if that is set to enable.

    BIOS SMART options are enabled

    Drives include

    Samsung 830 SSD (64GB) from 2012.

    WD20EARS (2TB SATA from 2011)

    WD6400AAKS (640GB SATA)

    WD2500KS (250GB SATA from 2006)

    While it might be OK to occasionally boot into another OS to check or even move the drives to another motherboard with an older controller I'd like to get SMART data visible within windows on this motherboard.


  4. I moved my CPU/HS/drives from a M2A-VM (690G chipset with DDR2) to a M5A97 (970 chipset with DDR3) and reinstalled windows from the same XP SP3 CD. The only variable is the motherboard change.

    I can't see SMART data in speedfan, crystal disk info, Samsung SSD magician, or HDTune. The drives work perfectly and show in disk management, device manager, POST, and BIOS. They haven't shown the slightest bit of flakiness.

    I'm assuming this is either an issue with the AMD AHCI driver for the chipset or an issue with the ASUS BIOS. I'm using 0901 and the short list of bios options are:

    Version 0901

    1. Improve syatem stability.

    Version 0810 Beta

    1. Update AMD CPU firmware.

    Version 0705

    1. Support new CPUs.

    As to the AHCI driver I'm using 3.2.1540.92 which aren't the latest from AMD but are the latest on the ASUS web site.

    Does anybody know the fix for this issue or should I just wait for the BIOS to mature before spending much effort on this?


  5. They only bought the HDD division as far as I'm aware.

    What I'm confused about is that WD bought Hitachi yet Hitachi continues to release new drives like the 5 platter 4TB drive. What's up there? I just hope that when WD says they are cutting warranties, that any new Hitachi drives aren't affected.

    The Hitachi deal was announced but had to wait for regulatory (government) approval before completing. That often takes months if not a year or more. Even after that it will take additional months if not another year to get rid of the name if they choose to do so. Hitachi hard drives could be made forever by WD just like linkys products made by Cisco (that purchase was 8 years ago).

    Hitachi will probably own about 10 percent of Western Digital stock at the time of the purchase and it only got EU conditional approval last month (Nov 2011). It still hasn't been finalized even after 9 months since the first announcement.

    Hitachi said that the deal, which had been expected to be completed in the October-December quarter, is now expected to be finalized by March 2012.

    Hitachi's president says "very concerned" about possible further delays in sale of hard disk drive business to Western Digital

    -- Delay beyond March would affect Hitachi's cash flow forecasts for current fiscal year

    Western Digital Corp has yet to gain approval from various international regulators.

    "Authorities are continuing to examine the deal, and it's not clear what China will say,"


  6. I mentioned in a prior thread the numbers from April 2011, I'll grab new numbers for this thread.

    Seagate: 27.22% + Maxtor: 2.18% + Samsung 14.64% = ~44% (down ~1% from April 2011)

    Western Digital: 27.32% + Hitachi: 11.04% = ~38% (down ~1% from April 2011)

    Toshiba: 5.01% + Fujitsu: 0.88% = ~6% (Fujitsu drives are less common now but Toshiba gained share enough to compensate leaving the overall percentage roughly unchanged.)

    And the rest are SSDs or specialty drives of some other type (Intel being the largest share at 2.3%)

    Brain mentioned the flooding hurting WD more than Seagate but the SSD marketshare is eating away at both so in these numbers expect WD to drop faster than Seagate. Don't expect Seagate to gain marketshare.


  7. And to update the list I made in an earlier post it looks like this early in 2012

    SG Barracuda XT 3 year

    SG Barracuda 1 year

    WD Caviar Black 5 year

    WD Caviar Blue 2 year

    WD Caviar Green 2 year

    SG Momentus XT 3 year

    SG Momentus 1 year

    WD Scorpio Black 5 year

    WD Scorpio Blue 2 year

    Is that really right? Is WD Black the only consumer grade drive left with a 5 year warranty? And only Seagate XT drives with 3 year warranty?

    If that list is right I can see people moving to WD Black for storage drives just for the warranty.


  8. OK, you can rename this thread now.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/156962/Seagate-Take-A-Leaf-Out-Of-WD-s-Book-Offer-Crummy-ONE-YEAR-Warranties-On-Some-HDD-s.html

    Effective December 31, 2011, Seagate will be changing its warranty policy from a 5 year to a 3 year warranty period for Nearline drives, 5 years to 1 year for certain Desktop and Notebook Bare Drives, 5 years to 3 years on Barracuda XT and Momentus XT, and from as much as 5 years to 2 years on Consumer Electronics.

    Constellation 2 and ES.2 drives: 3 years

    Barracuda and Barracuda Green 3.5-inch drives: 1 year

    Barracuda XT: 3 years

    Momentus 2.5-inch (5400 and 7200rpm): 1 year

    Momentus XT: 3 years

    SV35 Series - Video Surveillance: 2 years

    Pipeline HD Mini, Pipeline HD: 2 years


  9. Well if WD is the only who's going to make green drives then I guess 2 years is the market leader ;)

    Hitachi will keep making green drives for a while at least too, so there's another option for now at least.

    Unless you've seen news saying the deal didn't happen or won't happen Hitachi is part of WD so green drives are still only WD no matter which of the two names are on the label. Only Toshiba stands alone and they are a niche player.

    Big 1 Seagate: 27.20% + Maxtor: 3.45% + Samsung 14.64% = ~45%

    Big 2 Western Digital: 27.80% + Hitachi: 10.92% = ~39%

    the little guy Toshiba: 4.36% + Fujitsu: 1.38% = ~6%

    those market share numbers yanked from April 2011, didn't feel like pulling newer stats. If the consolidation continues it'd be easy to see WD absorb Toshiba/Fujitsu drives and make it a simple duopoly. Oh, and the other 10% is SSDs or other items that didn't easily fit in the consumer HD space.