cyberius

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    Seagate Barracuda 7200.8

    I don't think it's going to happen. Seagate removed AAM on purpose and I don't think that it's probable that such a "feature" is going to be turned on by third party tools. The question remains: why Seagate removed such a feature and why is trying to wipe out every trace of past achievements on that field. Just wondering...
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    Seagate Barracuda 7200.8

    Other manufacturers managed to provide the user with both: NCQ and AAM (Samsung with their P120 line for example). If I knew that these new Barracudas lack such a feature then I'd never buy one. Sad thing is that no reviewing site bothered to notice and/or comment on the issue which somehow embarrasses their efforts. To many of my friends the way how the drive behaves (noise levels) is one of the most important factors when choosing one for their workstations. Regarding low efficiency of NCQ. I think that it's going to change, have you seen the review of dual-core CPUs on Anandtech? Some of the benchmarks they did showed that in multi-core configurations NCQ can bring much bigger improvement than in single-core systems. So I wouldn't disregard NCQ Cheers, Pawel
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    Seagate Barracuda 7200.8

    Well, this is the "conversation" between me and Seagate Support Team. Originally, in reply to my complains I got this e-mail: > The acoustic management will not be added any longer. If you feel this > drive is louder than a normal you should exchange the drive for an other > one. These drives should not be any louder than the previous models of the > drives. [...] Then I sent an e-mail in which I stated that without the AAM they (Seagate) lost the trump (silent performers) and in result I got this: > These drives are designed for NCQ configurations. Check to see if you have > met the NCQ requirements for this drive. > In order to take full advantage of Native Command Queuing, you must have > the following: > NCQ supported hard drive > Motherboards or PCI controllers with NCQ support > Verify NCQ support through your motherboard and host adapter > manufacturer > Multi-threading software > If so then note the drive will operate in performance mode but may appear > a bit louder. To me it's a kind of a camouflaged hint that something like AAM is still present in the firmware but int's not accessible to the user in a direct way. Luckily, guys from Seagate bothered to show the way how to make sure that the drive is working in a semi-silent mode. I checked that out (by turning the NCQ off in my NF4-based ABIT AN8 motherboard) and after the reboot of the system the seeks stopped bothering me. One puzzling issue is that it seems that it happened not _right_ after the restart but a couple of minutes (hours?) later. But I may be wrong (about the period of time - it's just that when I noticed the absence of those seeks it was some time after the restart). Anyway, the drive is silent now but I'm not able to use the NCQ which sucks and makes me thinking about the purchase of the other drive. Cheers, cYb
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    Seagate Barracuda 7200.8

    Well, honestly, I'm quite surprised with the overtones of the review because in my opinion they're way too positive. I've been using 250 GB 7200.8 SATA NCQ drive for a month and this model replaced my previous 7200.7 200 GB drive. I decided to take a risk and purchase the drive without seing any prior reviews because my previous experiences with Seagate have been rather positive. Well, I lost the game. I'm very disappointed and I'd rather not buy any new Seagate products anytime soon. Surely, not without prior deep digging. The 7200.8 model is simply slow (in real-world applications sometimes slower than my 2-years old 7200.7) and noisy, very noisy (I mean seeks - the motor is whisper quiet). The latter is especialy painful because I decided to buy 7200.8 mostly due to the fact that 7200.7 IDE drive was such a silent harddrive. 7200.8 is not such a case, furthermore - Seagate decided to disable option to control the AAM of the drive and they are NOT going to enable it back. I've checked that out with their support team. Instead, they have built in some kind of internal acoustic management which turns the performance mode on if the drive's working in NCQ mode (means - the chipset and SATA controller are compatible with NCQ and NCQ's been turned on) - or turns it off and switches to accoustic mode if the platform does not support NCQ (or NCQ has been disabled). To me it's simply not acceptable because I want to be able to control and choose how the hardware is expected to be working. I'm going to sell this poor product as soon as new Samsung P120 harddrives are available here. Seagate, wake up! You cannot relly on your past achievements only. Care more about what end users think about your products or... (sorry).