f_vo, you did nt understand what i mean. Maybe it s because you misread, or maybe it s because of my poor english or a mix of the two. I never wanted to say you can kill the seal as much as you want because they will die in a way or another, i wanted say it s not all black or all white all the time. I will try to explain in the following.
-killing animals if not for food is a crime (it s your opinion not a fact)
-destroying the rain forest is a crime (again your opinion not a fact)
What is wrong and stupid (not criminal) is to abuse of the earth (my opinion)
If policeman kill a tiger that escaped a zoo, it s not a crime. If people destroy the amazon rainforest to make agriculture to be able to eat or to make themselve a house, it s not a crime, they have no other choice, they are poor an not educated, i don t think we can t say "hey you can t do that, you are a criminal" they could do it with respect of the nature, but they don t know how, and maybe they don t even know they are not doing it right. They are not the big abusor of the earth, if you want to see who abuse, look at those that have the most, not those that have almost nothing.
About the million in Africa or India that are starving to death, killing them is not a solution and i never said we should do that, we better help them and we are able to do it, but we don t because ....
And btw id better like to die instantly than to starve to death.... don t you? But id better like to stay alive an have a good life and i wish a good life for all.
When you say "afterall many are starving to dead overthere and no one cares"
That make me think of a good example of brutality and insanity. If we think about the Irak. U.S. is ready to spend hundred of billion to supposedly **free** and help the Iraq population, but when it s time to help people that are starving to death simply because of a lack of food or other problem (HIV-Malaria etc....).... where the big billions, they are nowhere to be seen.
Another example is the Rwanda, they knowed (not only U.S.) the mass slaughtering was about to begin, an guess what happened, those that where there (some member of U.N.) simply leaved except one, Romeo Dallaire of Canada but not because Canada decided too, because he decided too stay even if Canadian authority ordered him to leave. He tryed to convince other to stay, he also asked Canada government to change idea , but that did nt worked. He also talked to a U.S. *general* (dunno the rank exactly) that they should stay, and is **nice** answer was: the life of 100 (maybe it was 10 or 1000) of those do not even have the value of a single american!!!! And we have no interest here. (no oil, no gold etc...) Btw, ive seen in tv report how **great** the coalition was, they where protecting oil building but did nt care about the plundering of the hospital that was near, oh yeah we are here to free you and help you Iraqi people.... hmmm...hmmm
Is not this a good example of pure brutality and insanity and showed to all at tv?
So around 800 000 people where slaughtered in the following 100 day and nobody except Mr. Dallaire where trying to do something to stop it. And preventing/stopping the slaugther was easier than invading Irak... and by far. They could easily stop the propaganda that caused the slaughter simply by destroying the Radio Antenna or use it to try to calm down the population and remove the insane who made this propaganda.
What i understand of your reply is that you don t like to see people killing animal and i fully understand that. But killing seal to save the fish is also killing animal for food but indirectly. You kill the seal to eat the fish they eat. Frankly if i had to kill my beef myself, i probly prefer to become vegetarian with maybe the exception of fish. It s because im not used to do it. I can t say that others that kill animal for food are criminal, even if they kill it for protecting a source of food. Like killing wolve for protecting lamb or sheep or another animal you keep as a source of food.
At start, the main point of this thread was about the showing of brutality for *fun* and i don t see show of seals being slaughtered for fun in Canada. Maybe some fisherman get enraged when killing seals maybe they think die damn job remover, i need the fish to sell them to finish to pay my house or something like that and make pleasure doing it, who know!!! Even in this case, i can t say he is a criminal and should be put in jail. But i don t like this behavior.
Id go off topic a little and take the chance to say that the problem behind the slaugtering of seal and tree etc... is a too big appetite of some people. And it show clearly by the actual event in the world and i talked about some of them in the present reply. Lack of cooperation, lack of love for others. It s " Just take what you want and don t care about what happen to other because you do" It s possible to be very brutal without killing anybody or any animal directly. Pollution is an example, pollution of water by big mining company in a poor country is the cause of suffering of lot of people and i can call that brutality, and i could add many example.
In my opinion, a solution to this problem and many other is a change of way of thinking and behavior. Actually, it s money over *all*, it s money over all other value, money is an idea (capitalist, business) that rule the world. If you think about it, money in it s use today is a stupid concept. But the money and value that come with it (brutal capitalist) are stupidly the most important thing to some people. Capitalist is about making the most money in the shortest amount of time, and people in all that, we don t care. (notice that i simplify and cut corner) In other region it s religious belief over *all* or religious belief mixed with desire of having money (money can be replaced by power). And again, people and nature.... we don t care.
So a solution could be to forget about the concept of money, forget about the concept of country or religious battle, and just work togheter to try to solve problem and we have a lot. And who is the most able to do that? The mosts develloped of today country, not the underdevelloped ruled by insane. And the fisrt stage of the solution, is to change our behavior, our way of thinking and acting. Think about the movie Star Wars, they re the bad side of the force and there the good side of the force.
sorry if you see error im my text, no time to reread myself.