Kennyshin

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  1. Kennyshin

    When did Eugene and company sell out?

    Good to see SR again. Many of the old timers continue to post here.
  2. Kennyshin

    New 256GB Samsung SSD

    While i agree that 256Gbyte <1k wont be feasible, SSDs currently are overpriced. There is no economic reason for Flash SSDs to be that expensive, except milking the early adaptors. SLC cells are around $8 /GByte on the spot market now, MLCs at $2.50. Maybe economy of scale and increased competition will help that. (hint: Samsung and Mtron are in one bed, OCZ and Hama also only offer rebadged Samsung respectively Mtron drives. So no real competition going on, currently) It's not just a matter of competition. Mtron has been practically the only maker of really fast SSDs. For those in need of cheaper ones, there are many. If you buy those MLC chips at US$2.5 per GB, you can make 256GB MLC-based SSD and sell one for, say, US$625, or even US$500. However, what about controllers? Case? Marketing? I mean those are targeted at different markets, and do you really believe it takes US$10,000 for Intel to assemble that workstation based on Skulltrail platform? Anyone here can probably build two 9300-based systems for under US$1K. I'd rather go for 10 or more E1200-based systems for the same amount of money since I can buy 256GB DDR II RAM for US$2, 40GB HDD for like nothing, E1200 (which is nearly as fast as those in the Skulltrail for most things most people do) processor for about US$40, a case plus power supply for U$10, and so on. It's no coincidence that both Samsung and Mtron are in South Korea, and there are some other makers. The cheapest SSD costs under US$50. There's a 128GB SSD that costs over US$3,000. Such products are "overpriced" in the sense some luxury cars are overpriced because they are handmade. Intel will help to make SSD market thrive, but it's also commonly known Intel has worked with Samsung and Microsoft and though Intel makes CPUs better than anyone else on the planet, Samsung is the one with flash. Intel can probably sell 8-core 32nm processors for under US$100 if they want to by the end of 2009, but that's only because there's enough room yet to maneuver. Such options usually don't exist in the DRAM and flash industries. Which company's investing how many billions in USDs this year is no secret, though there are many secrets like exact yield rate, and that's the only information needed to predict roughly how SSD market will evolve in the next 5 to 10 years. Intel is not, Apple is not, AMD is not investing much, so don't expect a miracle. For some, the biggest challenge has been Gigabyte's I-RAM-like products. I-RAM uses DDR modules. I haven't seen I-RAM II yet which should use DDR II. 2GB DDR II costs US$40 in Seoul which isn't that much considering it takes US$160 plus the cost of I-RAM II card versus the cost of 8GB USB stick (about US$30.) I'd rather buy I-RAM II-like cards based on DDR II than luxury SSDs like the 256GB Samsung one mentioned here. Spending a few thousands of USD's on a single hardware that combines storage and access time and transfer rate all at once isn't as good as spending US$1K on speed (imagine FOUR I-RAM II RAIDed to SATA, each with 8GB PC2-6400) and another US$1K on storage like five 1TB HDDs. The bottomline's that 256GB SSD's not for you. Theoretically, you can have 256GB PC2-6400 DDR II memory with lower access times and faster transter rates for about US$4,000 which is cheap considering how much the fastest 64GB SSD costs now. The world has more fabs for DRAM than flash as well.
  3. Kennyshin

    New 256GB Samsung SSD

    1. Samsung has worked with Mtron. Mtron provides experiences. Samsung provides the chips. 2. Mtron was founded in 2005. By whom? Just guess smartly. 3. 64GB SSD yet costs over US$1K. 256GB by the end of 2008 which is just 2Q ahead, to fall to US$1K is a good hope but is not realistic. Maybe by the end of 2009, yes. Flash fabs are too expensive and there is just no one in the world that has more than Samsung.
  4. Kennyshin

    New 256GB Samsung SSD

    Mtron will release Pro 7500 series SSD products by the middle of June. 130MB/s read, 120MB/s write, makes nearly as fast as the newest Samsung SSD. Whether parallel or not, Mtron is physically closely located from Samsung Electronics in Suwon. They have actually worked closely together. No wonder their products are so similar. Samsung will make their just a little more expensive than Mtron. The 256GB version willl cost far more than US$2,000. If I could buy a 256GB SSD that can write at 160MB/s for US$1K each, I'd have bought four of them for US$4K total. 160MB/s x 4 striped makes 640MB/s. It's much easier to RAID SSD than to RAID HDD. http://www.mtron.net/English/pressroom/pre...=&category= Mtron Rocks Again, the Fastest 130MB/s SATA II SSD One more time, Mtron SSD PRO 7500 Series will hit the SSD market SEOUL, South Korea--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mtron Co., Ltd(KOSDAQ: 046320), a manufacturer of Solid State Drive (SSD) products in South Korea, announced today that they have completed the development of new PRO 7500 series for industrial purpose, and will be launching the new series in June. Mtron’s new PRO 7500 series supports SATA II interface and provide the maximum read speed of 130MB/s and write speed of 120MB/s, becoming the fastest SSD in the market. With the development of their new PRO 7500 series, Mtron created another innovation to the SSD technology and proved once again that they are the leading manufacturer of SSD products in the highly competitive market. Mtron’s new PRO 7500 series is targeted for enterprise market to provide servers and storages with 10~20% improved performance from Mtron’s SATA I SSD. It includes Random Read IOPS (Data input/output speed) of 19,000, a speed that is 65 times faster than current industrial purpose SAS HDD, in order to deliver much-improved performance in the situations with heavy volume transactions. Also, it consumes 60% less electricity than HDD, has maximum energy efficiency with no noise and less heat, and contributes to environmental-friendly green IT technology. Mtron will be producing their new PRO 7500 series with 32 GB ~ 128 GB capacities in 2.5 inch and 3.5 inch sizes. In addition to their announcement, Mtron will be exhibiting their new PRO 7500 series at ‘DS Expo/10th Data Storage Expo in Tokyo’ from May 14th to 16th, and ‘Cebit Austrailia 2008’ in Australia from May 20th to 22nd.
  5. Kennyshin

    I don't like the new South Korean president.

    Opposite to Roh Mu-Hyun, Lee MB is pro-American. One of the first things he did right after he became president was to reopen... http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/...beef/index.html South Korea banned imports of U.S. beef in 2003 amid concerns over a case of mad cow disease in the United States. The ban closed what was then the third-largest market for U.S. beef exporters. It resumed limited imports last year -- allowing boneless beef from cattle under 30 months of age -- but that re-opening was subject to interruptions and closed altogether in October 2007. A deal that South Korea and the United States struck last month bans the import of high-risk materials, like tonsils, brains, spinal cord marrow and a section of the small intestine, Agriculture Minister Chung Woon-chun said Thursday, according to South Korea's Yonhap news agency. These parts pose the greatest risk of transmitting mad cow disease to humans.
  6. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    --> QUOTE(Eric B @ Dec 1 2007, 09:09 AM) 247266[/snapback] +1 I am waiting for the 500MB version since it has been announced, but now, the 640 GB version looks like even more interessting: 2 full platters. Kennyshin, you mentioned the availability in South Korea of the others versions 10 days ago. What about the 640 GB? What is the price of this disk in Korea? A colleague of mine is going to Korea next week; I wonder if it could be more interesting than buying it in Germany. Is the Samsung warranty international or per continent? Did somebody try the F1 on a SATA-150 controller, or even on board with a i865PE chipset (which I still have)? No word on 640GB and 320GB versions. By now, newegg.com is already selling 750GB and 1TB versions and their prices are a little lower than those in Seoul. Sure the European prices are relatively higher. Samsung doesn't allow warranty internationally. Intentional so as to make it difficult for those in Asia to buy products intended for sale in Europe and North America. But I don't know if Made in Korea or South Korean "DOM" (for domestic) Samsung HDD's are serviceable in Germany or the USA. What I know is anything other than "DOM" is not serviceable in South Korea meaning Samsung just refuses to do anything other than treating those customers like thieves. They call them "illegal" products. Anyway, it's good to see newegg.com is selling F1 1TB for just US$286 including ground shipping. Does anyone know what "S1" is? BTW, LG is considering to buy Hitachi. For about 10 years, LG has worked with Hitachi in many fields and one of their most successful ventures is HLDS that designs and sells ODD products from CD-ROM drives to Blu-ray writers. LG wants something other than Samsung HDD's in their Blu-ray recorders and HDTVs.
  7. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    At least in South Korea, T166 500GB and F1 500GB prices are nearly identical. Less than 10% difference. Modern HDD's are so cheap. A used MTRON 32GB SSD in South Korea typically costs a little over US$700.
  8. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    F1 HD502LJ also listed this week: 116,000 KRW 320GB and 750GB are listed, too, but I can't find any price on them yet. The 500GB version seems most reasonable for now.
  9. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    Samsung 1TB HD102UJ and HD103UJ are selling in South Korea now. HD102UJ: 370,000 KRW HD103UJ: 325,000 KRW Seagate ST31000340AS: 315,000 KRW Western Digital WD10EACS: 297,000 KRW Hitachi 7K1000: 321,000 KRW No wonder, in South Korea, Samsung 1TB HDD prices are higher than 1TB prices from the others. But I would like to buy a few HD102UJ's asap.
  10. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    On Samsung's Korean site, they indicate the media to buffer transfer rate for the T166 (HD501LJ/DOM and HD321KJ/DOM, DOM = domestic) as 135 MB/s... but perhaps that is just marketing reasons too. I haven't seen any website or reviewer or retail store that actually has F1 1TB, but perhaps such inconsistences once again prove Samsung doesn't care much about their own websites. For that matter, Samsung still doesn't care much about SR.
  11. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    Most times, it's just marketing reasons.
  12. Kennyshin

    Samsung F series?!

    Truly, Samsung 1TB HD102UJ has three 334GB platters according to the Korean-language Samsung web page linked on a post above. There's no 750GB or 1TB Samsung HDD listed on South Korean danawa.co.kr site. http://pc.danawa.com/price.html?defSite=PC...1&cate2=877
  13. Kennyshin

    7200.10 upgrade to 250G/plane

    How and why did Samsung make such a big jump? I thought their latest drive was a 500 gb 3 platter version for only 166 gb/platter. Samsung demonstrated 250GB-platter drives in Seoul some weeks ago. It wasn't exactly a big jump, but only that Samsung's not very popular here on SR.
  14. Kennyshin

    Samsung SpinPoint P120

    Samsung T166 320GB, 400GB, and 500GB SATA 2 drives are selling in Seoul. They probably first appeared in retail a few days ago. http://pc.danawa.com/price_right.html?cate...mp;pcode=396255 The 500GB version costs just a little over US$200 but it should be around US$150 in the US market. T166 400GB costs nearly the same as T133 400GB.
  15. In Seoul (Yong San), T166 500GB series drives were finally announced and displayed in last weekend. Three 166GB platters. SATA II and 16GB buffer.