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  1. Agreed, the interface is a bit tedious but it is at least reliable. Also it's not necessary to run in RAID10 to get great performance - RAID5 (7+1) is giving us excellent results and they seem to have the RAID5 write amplification under control: all the SSDs in the unit still show 100% life left after 6 months, even though they are rated as 1 DWPD. When you tested with data reduction, did you run it with a single disk group or two for the TPP? The manual suggests much better performance with two disk groups.
  2. We bought the previous gen AF250 and abysmal documentation aside, are very happy with it. The only area where it is weak is when dedupe/compression are enabled. It would have been interesting to see how much of an improvement there is with the S2 model in this regard. The reduction numbers are very close to what we're seeing on Pure, but the performance hit is severe. The Eternus line is very robust and cost effective (they even beat some other manufacturers' hybrid solution quotes). It's a shame they don't manage to sell more of then.
  3. Same base price as MSA2052, 30 bays instead of 24, way cheaper drives, higher IOPS (on paper anyway) and data reduction. Has Dell just killed the MSA?
  4. How many times back and forth do you go though? Until they 'tap out' after a few weeks of horse trading and your relationship with the intermediate supplier has been burnt? On the 2nd point - we always do 5 years support up front with storage/networking purchases. Guaranteed pricing for capacity increase is good in theory, but there are so many loopholes that can be worked into their "pricing guarantee" that it often doesn't play out as planned.
  5. Agree with the above, I'm really tired of the song and dance that's required with storage purchases. For everything else we operate a "best price, first time" policy with no back and forth and it works well. Storage is a different matter, regardless of vendor. You usually have to show a competitor quote to get a better price, which I'm not comfortable with.
  6. Thanks for the information...looks like it's a bit of a buyer's market at the moment. Forgot to add the one requirement which seems to eliminate a good few vendors immediately - the array must support direct attach FC. That's 3PAR and Compellent out; Nimble also don't like doing it apparently but a recent code update means it's now supported if you don't mind halving bandwidth. I see Unity does support it - had no idea they were coming in at pricing that low. Can't really see the entry level hybrid arrays being viable for much longer...
  7. Definitely open to options. MSA 2052 was at the top of the list until I saw this review.
  8. No, no requirements like that. All of it is done at Hypervisor level. Even though the requirements are modest, we still need enterprise support and dual controllers though. Budget is $40K for 20TB usable with support. The dedupe/compression on backups is 3-4:1 so I imagine the data should get 2:1+ on an array with dedupe/compression.
  9. Great review. It is apparent there is a large hit on performance at the limit when compression/dedupe are enabled. How feasible is it to run with those features enabled in a moderate IO requirement environment though? Looking for something that can do 15K IOPs (70/30 @ 32K) and the pricing puts it right in line with an HP MSA hybrid setup assuming data reduction at 2:1.
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    HPE MSA 2042 vs NetApp E-2724

    What data services do you get out of a SAN that you can't get out of the host/hypervisor these days though?
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    HPE MSA 2042 vs NetApp E-2724

    Good to hear...only problem is the SSDs are insanely expensive compared to Dell.
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    HPE MSA 2042 vs NetApp E-2724

    @Kevin - looking to buy some low end storage soon - any ideas when the review will be done?
  13. Hi all We have an old 4824 array (which actually works fine and is still a 'current' OEM model apparently). I'd like to extend its life by adding some SSDs to it. Dot Hill/Quantum branded drives are much more expensive, even though they're really just supplying Seagate drives, with Seagate firmware! I'd like to save some cash and buy the drives elsewhere, but where can one obtain the drive carriers? I saw some old ebay listings but the seem to be gone. Can I re-purpose the carriers from existing drives in the unit, or are the SSD ones different? Thanks A