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    Reliability of seagate expansion 2.5" 2 TB

    As far as the IronWolf goes, the 2TB and 3TB models have different sound ratings. Here is the spec sheet which covers both capacities as well as others. 2TB IronWolf (ST2000VN004): IDLE - Typical 1.9 bels, Max 2.0 bels SEEK - Typical 2.1 bels, Max 2.2 bels 3TB IronWolf (ST3000VN007): IDLE - Typical 2.3 bels, Max 2.4 bels SEEK - Typical 2.5 bels, Max 2.6 bels The original post does talk about ST2000LM007, which was a 2.5" laptop drive, keep in mind the IronWolfs are 3.5" drives. Here are the sound acoustics from a 2TB BarraCuda just to give an idea of how the IronWolf does in relation to a standard desktop-grade drive (spec sheet for the BarraCuda here): 2TB, 3.5" BarraCuda (ST2000DM006): IDLE - Typical 2.5 bels, Max 2.6 bels SEEK - Typical 2.7 bels, Max 2.8 bels If you wanted another 2.5" drive to compare to, here's the 2.5" version of the 2TB BarraCuda (spec sheet here): 2TB, 2.5" BarraCuda (ST2000LM015): IDLE - Typical 2.0 bels, Max 2.2 bels SEEK - Typical 2.2 bels, Max 2.4 bels Given that information, the 2TB IronWolf comes out the winner on quietest drive as far as these offerings go. Just keep in mind that the 2TB, 3.5" BarraCuda is 7200 RPM, while the rest of the drives on this list in these capacities will be 5400/5900 RPM. Regardless of which route you decide to go in the end, thanks for considering Seagate!
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    Seagate 2.5inch NAS

    Hey nasman, thanks for reaching out to us here both on this post and the PM you sent. Sorry we've taken a moment to get back to you. Had to pull in our experts on this one as it went beyond the scope of the forums team's understanding. Our SeaChest_Configure command-line tool allows for timers on error recovery controls to be adjusted, our nomenclature for this is "SCT Error Recovery Control". The documentation: --sctReadTimer [info | value] (SATA Only) (Seagate Only) Use this option to set the read command timer value for synchronous commands and NCQ commands with in-order data delivery enabled. Note: this timer starts at the time that the drive processes the command, not the time it is received. This timer value is volatile and is cleared at each power cycle. Use the "info" argument to get the current status of the read timer. A value of 0 means that all possible error recovery will be performed before returning status (i.e. the Read Command Timer is disabled). Other values should include a unit to know the time to use. If no unit is provided, it is assumed to be the value * 100 ms. The maximum time that can be specified is 1 hour, 49 minutes, 13 seconds. Note: On some SAT HBAs/bridges, status will not be able to be determined due to HBA/bridge limitations. Ex1: --sctReadTimer 15s for a 15 second timer. Ex2: --sctReadTimer 15000ms for a 15 second timer expressed in milliseconds Ex2: --sctReadTimer 150 for a 15 second timer with no units specified --sctWriteTimer [info | value] (SATA Only) (Seagate Only) Use this option to set the write command timer value for synchronous commands and NCQ commands with in-order data delivery enabled. Note: this timer starts at the time that the drive processes the command, not the time it is received. This timer value is volatile and is cleared at each power cycle. Use the "info" argument to get the current status of the write timer. A value of 0 means that all possible error recovery will be performed before returning status (i.e. the Write Command Timer is disabled). Other values should include a unit to know the time to use. If no unit is provided, it is assumed to be the value * 100 ms. The maximum time that can be specified is 1 hour, 49 minutes, 13 seconds. Note: On some SAT HBAs/bridges, status will not be able to be determined due to HBA/bridge limitations. Ex1: --sctWriteTimer 15s for a 15 second timer. Ex2: --sctWriteTimer 15000ms for a 15 second timer expressed in milliseconds Ex2: --sctWriteTimer 150 for a 15 second timer with no units specified This feature is also available in our openSeaChest toolset under openSeaChest_Configure with the same command-line options. Also, to verify if this feature is enabled on any drive, the --deviceinfo (or -i) command will list some features supported by the drive. Example, output may show something along these lines: Features Supported: Sanitize SATA NCQ SATA Device Sleep Preservation SATA Software Settings Preservation [Enabled] SATA Device Initiated Power Management Power Management Security SMART [Enabled] 48bit Address APM [Enabled] GPL DSN AMAC Sense Data Reporting TRIM SCT Write Same -----> SCT Error Recovery Control SCT Feature Control SCT Data Tables Host Logging As far as head parking, SeaTools should be able to adjust this under functions to disable extended power conditions.
  3. seagate_surfer

    Seagate Announces 14TB Helium HDD

    It's PMR & 7200 RPM, the other details aren't officially released yet. Here is our Exos 14TB Blog Post and here's an article from Anandtech. Hopefully those help shed some light on it. The Anandtech one speculates on platter count, however there's nothing official circulating yet to confirm/deny from a company standpoint.
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    [2.5"] Upgrading my laptop from 1TB to 2TB !

    We do have a 1TB, 2.5" BarraCuda Pro (model ST1000LM049) which is 7mm height, 7200 RPM and 128MB cache, comes with a 5 year warranty if that fits the bill for you. Thank you for considering Seagate, regardless of which route you decide to go in the end!
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    Seagate DJI Fly Drive Review

    We do have a newer LaCie DJI Copilot drive which was announced at CES 2018 and should fulfill those hopes, it has a built-in screen to do the things you mentioned. It copies files directly with no need for a laptop, you can use a phone/tablet to manage files, and it allows you to charge your phone on the go. https://www.lacie.com/products/dji-copilot/
  6. Our SED (Self-Encrypting Drives) have Instant Secure Erase functionality through SeaTools. Check out this article from our Knowledge Base.
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    14TB performance reviews

    We actually have the manufacturing process online for HAMR drives, in capacities 20TB+, with shipments to key customers before this year is out, and hitting the public in 2019. Multi-actuator tech is in the works as well, and we are seeing what kind of useful implementations that can be applied to, in combination with HAMR and other tech, etc. We recently did a demo at CES 2018. Here are some links about what we've got in the works you may want to check out: Seagate HAMR Blog Seagate Multi-Actuator Blog Tom's Hardware Multi-Actuator Article HAMR/Multi-Actuator IMGUR Album
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    Seagate Launches 5U84 High-Density Enclosure

    A question in this release is the answer to a giveaway we are doing today over on our social media pages for 2x 12TB Seagate Exos X12 Enterprise drives. To enter the contest, you will need to answer to the trivia question "Seagate's new 5U84 high-density storage system can pack how much raw storage capacity into a single chassis?" The contest starts at 11:30a PST and you can enter on our social channels at that time. Links for convenience: http://facebook.com/Seagate http://twitter.com/Seagate http://instagram.com/Seagate Contest is global with a few legally required exceptions. Good luck!
  9. seagate_surfer

    Seagate Launches 5U84 High-Density Enclosure

    Here is the official press release on the 5U84 if anyone would like to check it out.
  10. seagate_surfer

    Seagate Introduces Multi Actuator Technology

    Here is our blog post if anyone would like to dig into this a little more.
  11. Yeah, that one is probably beyond the scope of what I personally can assist with, however if you're worried about the health of the drive, you can always run our free diagnostic software SeaTools or if you need to step it up from there, you could get in touch directly with Seagate Support.
  12. Our 12TB IronWolf is 7200 RPM speed, the same as the 12TB BarraCuda Pro and our new 12TB Exos (Enterprise drive) would be.
  13. seagate_surfer

    Power consumtion measurements in reviews

    The nitty-gritty level details might require an engineering answer beyond the scope of what I can personally provide adequately, however it has a lot to do with RV sensors, and fine-tuning of the drives to work in more demanding environments like high-volume NAS enclosures or servers. Like fine-tuning a car for whatever extreme use it may be applied to. The overall components may be more or less the same or variations of the same as far as what physically makes them up, but you still wouldn't take one to a racetrack that wasn't engineered for racetracks. Same goes with a mountain bike versus a road bike. They're made up of mostly the same stuff, yet they're used for different environments and purposes. The IronWolf Pro comes with RV sensors on all models, 1.2 million hours MTBF compared to 1 million for standard IronWolf, as well as a 300TB of data per year workload rating for the Pro and a 180TB workload rating for the standard IronWolf. If you'd like to go deeper, there is an interesting article Storage Review did a couple of years ago on the topic in collaboration with Seagate to dive deeper than the typical spec-sheet stuff: Pick The Right Drive For The Job - 24/7 NAS HDDs vs Desktop HDDs We also have a YouTube video which shares some of the specifics as well if you'd like to check it out.
  14. seagate_surfer

    Power consumtion measurements in reviews

    You can find power measurements in our IronWolf & IronWolf Pro spec sheets. On the IronWolf sheet linked, it is under "power management" whereas on the Pro one, it's under "power consumption". Normally, we'd list out the details here but in this case without knowing exact capacities/models, it's probably a little less page-hoggy and soapboxy (yes, we make up words...we're cool like that) to just link it and let people look it up themselves. One note to add: The standard IronWolf is rated for 1-8 bay enclosures, since you mentioned going up to 16 HDDs in your server, may want to look at more the Pro version, since it is rated for 1-16 bay enclosures.
  15. If anyone would like to give them a look-over, we have also updated our data sheets with information about the new SkyHawk AI drives here.
  16. While we can't speak specifically as to 3rd party head-to-head type benchmarking like you are interested in, one big thing with comparing the BarraCuda Pro and IronWolf Pro is use-case. Spec-wise, there are a lot of similarities between the two, they're both rated for up to 300TB of data per year, both come with a 5 year warranty + 2 free years of Rescue Services, both can handle 24x7 type environments, both have 256 MB cache in the new 12TB capacities. Getting the most out of your drive(s) depends on having the right drive for that environment. If your needs are more in a creative desktop environment, then the BarraCuda Pro is going to be a better fit. The reason the IronWolf Pro wouldn't be as ideal of a fit in desktop environments is that the firmware on the drives is engineered for these drives to excel when working in NAS/server type environments as members of RAID teams, and some of the subtleties of this mean things like the drive not as aggressively pursuing some errors, figuring they can just pass it on to the next drive in the RAID array for faster performance, versus a desktop drive like the BarraCuda Pro which is more likely to aggressively correct these errors because it isn't intended to be used in the same way. If your needs are more oriented towards the NAS or server type use, then the IronWolf Pro would be a much better fit. IronWolf Pro drives are rated for enclosures with up to 16 drives, so they are more cost-effective from a perspective of needing to add more drives or storage capacity at a later time. The vibrational considerations of NAS/server environments are heavily considered when NAS drives are designed, desktop grade drives like the BarraCuda Pro just don't have the same protections against performance issues and vibrations causing wear-down or issues with drives in these numbers because they aren't meant for these kinds of environments. IronWolf Pro drives come with built in RV (Rotational Vibration) sensors. We generally advocate two rules: 1. Always choose the right type of drive for the given application or use-case 2. Always back up your data.
  17. The Pro version of the IronWolf also comes with a longer warranty (5 years) and 2 years of Rescue Services. We have updated our data sheets to reflect the new 12TB model portfolio for the BarraCuda Pro, IronWolf, and IronWolf Pro if anyone would like to look over the specs. We have also done some updating to our IronWolf Health Management (IHM for 12TB is still in-the-works) page to add more details and also to include ASUSTOR (ASUS' NAS storage division) enclosures compatible with IHM in addition to the compatible Synology enclosures list we have.
  18. seagate_surfer

    Seagate BarraCuda Pro 12TB Review Discussion

    From the spec sheet, the drive falls under the same drive acoustic ratings as the 4TB, 6TB, 8TB and 10TB models of the BarraCuda Pro, with a typical idle of 2.8 bels (3.0 idle max), and a typical seek of 3.2 bels (3.4 seek max).
  19. Here is a link to the official press release, and a prototype image of the 64TB SSD if anybody would like to check it out.
  20. seagate_surfer

    HDD or SSHD for laptop

    Thank you for pointing this out to us! We value feedback like this, which will be taken into consideration towards future product development. Seagate Technology | Official Forums Team
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    HDD or SSHD for laptop

    Hey, Adrian. This is the Official Seagate Forums Team. We noticed you are not sure whether to buy a hard disk drive or a solid-state drive in order to upgrade your system performance. One benefit of a Solid State Hybrid Drive is that it will, in some ways, combine the best of both worlds between a standard spinning hard disk drive and a flash solid state drive, at a more friendly price point. SSHDs have a SSD cache, usually somewhere in the area of 8GB, it learns what files and information are accessed by you more frequently, and places them in the SSD cache so that these load up faster and give you better performance, but at a more affordable price because the whole disk is not solid-state. This seems like a good compromise of the different factors you're looking for here. Seagate FireCuda SSHDs may be something to look into here. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions! Seagate Technology | Official Forums Team IronWolf Drives for NAS Applications SkyHawk Drives for Surveillance Applications BarraCuda Drives for PC and Gaming
  22. seagate_surfer

    NAS vs Surveillance drive on HTPC

    Hi, amp323. This is the official Seagate Forums Team. In the end, it will be up to you to decide which product best fits your needs, considerations, and price point, but we would like to offer some input on your questions regarding whether a NAS product or surveillance product would be better for your use case. You mentioned that one of the main uses for your drive which you are replacing is going to be for DVR use/storage. The primary benefit of a surveillance drive such as Seagate's SkyHawk series, for example, is that it is built and optimized for constantly writing, if you are going to be doing something along the lines of recording roughly 90% of the time and playing back video the other 10%, this is what these type of drives excel at. A NAS drive on the other hand, such as Seagate's IronWolf series, is optimized for high performance in environments where it is important that information be readily accessible as quickly as possible, such as in a cloud environment or a home network in a NAS storage solution so that multiple users/devices can have quick, reliable access to centralized information. It is optimized to be constantly up and running at a moment's notice, and to be used in RAID boxes. If you would like more in-depth information on this, feel free to visit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JORAaU95YZ8 Seagate Technology | Official Forums Team