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  1. Usually one chance after the initial quote.
  2. There is nothing wrong with sharing the pricing IMO. Why? Because it helps them better understand where things should be priced down the road, or where they need to be, in other sales, with other customers. You're actually helping the vendor understand how to better price things. And always get in writing some price assurances when you need to expand or fixed maintenance. That should ALWAYS be negotiated in.
  3. Generally speaking, take MSRP, divide by half. However it can swing by upwards of even 30% more.. yes, going 80% off MSRP is possible, as a "normal," price, or as part of a competitive take out, or end of quarter or end of fiscal year price concessions. There are days I feel vendors are nothing more than used car salemen. The resellers that represent them, are crack dealers, chopping up the product, and adding in margin to pad their pockets. Of course your mileage may vary by region, city, country... Using Federal GSA pricing schedules, you can figure out some levels of discounting. Or some of the other government contract vehicles. Those docs just float around the web a bit too freely if you know how to look for them.
  4. Direct attach FC? As in, no FC switches inbetween host and SAN? Hmm... I've deployed that myself, it's been a while (Promise arrays and a nexsan array about 15yrs ago) I see if done a bit today, some AS400 and iSeries boxes with direct attached FC tape and FC DataDomain (VTL). That customer will never invest in an FC switch, no matter how hard I try. Good luck with your search! It truly is a buyers market these days.
  5. At this point, I'd just shop around. Pick your preffered vendors, DellEMC, NetApp, HPE, etc. Tell them what you want AFA, 20TB usable (with no dedupe factored in) under $40k. Tell each vendor you're looking at two other vendors. Then play a pricing game. I'm seen a Unity 350F All flash with 40+ usable TB for under 50k or so, it did 90k IOPS per it's sizing, the customer only needed about 25k IOPS. There are also capacity guarantees from various vendors where with dedupe/comp, say 3:1 or whatever.. So you would buy only 7-10TB of capacity, and it should all work and if it doesn't, they will give you the extra capacity. But like all promotions, READ THE FINE PRINT.
  6. That 15k IOP requirement could be served by a Synology array, which is cheap when compared to other "brandname," products. Even a SAS connected DAS could be engineered to do this. Do you have any other requirements like snapshots, replication, data services?
  7. HPE MSA 2042 vs NetApp E-2724

    Application data services. Whether that be SnapManager for SQL/Exchange/Oracle. Or AppSync from DellEMC. Perhaps it's the ProtectPoint features of VMAX/XtremIO to DataDomain, or HPE's similar offering from 3Par to StoreOnce. Hypervisors only care about themselves, and not the applications within. VMware can't do anything for Oracle or SQL. Nutanix cannot either. Hyper-V, nope. Sure you can use things like VADP to make a crash consistent backup. Or an IP replication technology and SRM for some site to site level failover. But that still doesn't take into account actual applications living in the VM, supported natively by hypervisor tools/api's. The ability to truncate logs, quiesce databases, flush and commit transaction from RAM to disk, etc.
  8. HPE MSA 2042 vs NetApp E-2724

    Marketing/product manager/product area sales manager would get in front of that fast. Swim lanes they call it. Why sell an MSA when 3Par has more margins and upside sales? Or this new shiny widget (nimble) that we have over hear. Don't blink, shiny! I agree, take away the data services, and an entry level MSA or Dell MD series, heck even a supermicro storage array; and then it just comes down to capacity, and IOPS. Put enough spindles/SSD with the proper controller, they all can all hit over 50k IOPS, in some cases, I've seen close to 100k stated in marketing rags. But data services, that is what makes a san a san. Otherwise, you just bought a toy. :-P
  9. WD To Acquire Tegile

    I see no light at the end of the tunnel here for Tegile customers, what little of them there are. Tegile wasn't recognized all that much by gartner, and in terms of marketshare per IDC, I think they were in the "other," category. I wish them the best. As a customer, I don't think I would invite WD to the table when considering storage decisions. In a way, they are lucky. Look at the other stuggling AFA players, hungry for deals, attacking the competition with negative info/FUD; yet deep down many of them built their business to be acquired; only to find there are not that many suitors left if any.
  10. Cisco To Acquire Springpath

    Cisco's history on acquisitions are dismal. The product will get absorbed, re-branded, reduncies in employment deduplicated; and the current sales force will not be able to sell it effectively. Their only chance at this point with competition from the likes of Nutanix and DellEMC, would be to just give it away with each UCS purchase. Enable customers to use it, perhaps sell SW support, but give the product away.
  11. HPE MSA 2042 vs NetApp E-2724

    Why not another FAS system? While I personally think NetApp storage is long in the tooth when it comes to innovation, and slow as a company to make good strategic acquisitions... Their FAS line is tried and true, solid, and most importantly, their data services are 2nd to none. And getting a 12TB usable all flash system is not a bad investment at all. You throw out performance issues, right out the door in most all cases. I've seen quotes of 20TB RAW from the big storage vendors all under $50K for all-flash.
  12. Stream DVD on NAS Server

    I usually use Handbrake to rip DVD's. It only gives me issues with Disney movies, and their copy protecion schemes. I have not tried to rip a bluray yet, and most of my BR purchases, came with a normal DVD, that I could rip. I then use the included Synology App DSVideo for playback. I have a Roku hooked up to my TV, and with the DSVideo app on the Roku, things are great to stream. Where I often run into issues is various codec, most importantly videos ripped with 5.1 audio. I have to convert them to 2.0 stereo as DSVideo doesn't support I think 5.1 DTS. Alternatively, you could uses VLC too for playback. But I really enjoy the netflix like view of DSVideo, with metadata tags across my phones and roku.
  13. Rubrik Releases Alta Discussion

    Well all can't be too bad... EMC got to keep the name Unity from NexSan. I'm sure there was a large check of money involved.
  14. Rubrik Releases Alta Discussion

    Queue lawsuit from Netapp over the name Alta... 3, 2, 1....
  15. HDD or SSHD for laptop

    I've had a number of older momentus XT hybrids, and never again, until you can put more a meaningful amount of flash in there. 8GB is not enough IMO. I'd much prefer to see at least 32GB in there, on a 1TB drive, perhaps 16GB on the 500GB, so you can maintain low costs. But 8GB gets quickly eaten up, and gains quickly lost in everyday computing. Think of it as a quasi Intel Optane like functionality, but without needing to change motherboards, chipsets etc; and the capacity is equal.