reader50

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    Toshiba L200

    I do not recall this being announced. Newegg shows stock available today. Toshiba has a new 2.5" / 7-9.5 mm lineup out, in 2 TB / 1 TB / 500 GB. Apparently all 5400 RPM. L200 in 2TB (9.5mm) for $95 My question is if it's PMR. Toshiba's product page has no detailed specs. (click on the L200 pic in the banner). Their support section lists the drive, but basically has no documents. Obviously I'd like to see a notebook drive bigger than 2TB. But even at 2TB, it would be nice to have a current PMR available. The M9T is running $156-200 on Newegg (about half of a basic 2TB SSD), and I'm not certain it's still being made. Any chance Storage Review could use their spies to determine if it's PMR?
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    Toshiba L200

    Running good so far. During the drive swap, I discovered my notebook can apparently take a 12.5mm drive. But as all 3TB+ notebook drives are 15mm, this still does not make an upgrade possible. I thought someone had a 3TB out in 12.5mm, but apparently I misremembered. So back to the waiting game. Will SSD prices drop, or will someone intro a 3TB or 4TB drive first?
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    Toshiba L200

    Defragging worked fine on the other partitions too. I defragged a partition on the old WD drive for comparison. The Toshiba was about 50% faster, which agrees with their sequential speeds. However, when the defrag finished up, it rebuilt/compacted the Catalog file, Attributes file, etc. On those files, it ran dramatically slower on the Toshiba L200. The disk activity graph showed a sawtooth pattern which might be typical of an SMR drive. I've avoided SMR, so I don't have a known one for comparison. First boot test: no abnormal delays. Quieter than the old drive.
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    Toshiba L200

    Cloning completed. Speeds ran up to 140 MB/s, usually less as it was mostly copying from an older drive. Toshiba HDWL120 (revision JT000A) I've just defragged a bootable partition. Write speed was 10-30 MB/s most of the time, with occasional brief spikes. Both below and above that range. This is the speeds I expect when defragging a 2.5" PMR drive. Proceeding with defragging other partitions. Edit: it was a defrag+optimize. All files on the volume get moved, often twice.
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    Toshiba L200

    I'm in the process of cloning partitions from my old drive to the new L200. I'll watch for SMR clues, but this may take awhile. The old drive was indeed failing. Disk Utility still thinks the SMART status is ok, but I'm getting I/O errors during cloning.
  6. It's been a couple years since we reached 2TB in the 2.5"/9.5mm form factor. I know there's a Toshiba 3TB, and a Seagate SMR 4TB, both in 15mm. Both have been out for over a year. I take my video library with me on vacations, so capacity is more important than speed. Any rumors of 9.5mm drives coming that are bigger than 2 TB?
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    Toshiba L200

    My 2TB L200 has not yet arrived, so I haven't been able to comment. It will be installed in my Macbook Pro, so I'll watch for your thermal pauses. The notebook already has a 2TB Samsung M9T (replacing the optical drive) for the last few years. I have not observed any pauses there, or any other odd behavior. It's a 3-platter, and I think I benched it once at around 62 MB/s sustained write. So about half the speed of an L200.
  8. I've never dismissed it, that may be the problem. I suggest a more minimal edit: could you set it to appear only when the cursor leaves the page? So it does not appear when mousing around story links, and getting familiar with SR's content.
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    Any word of new 2.5 drives above 2 TB?

    Unfortunately they outwaited me. The drive I wanted to upgrade has been showing increasing hesitations. I ordered a Toshiba 2TB, as nothing better was available. 3TB should be out now, with 4TB on the horizon.
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    Any word of new 2.5 drives above 2 TB?

    (in reply about a deleted spam post) He's a spammer. Don't worry about what he says, and keep a tight grip on your wallet.
  11. OK, not an ad. Upon closer look, it's an email newsletter signup. Which pops up whenever your cursor leaves the page, or moves a significant amount on it. Like towards another tab, or towards a story link on the page itself. Once it pops up, it dims the rest of the page, and covers it. Clicking on links does not work until/unless you dismiss the popup. I captured the form submission code for reference: form action="//mc.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe/form-post?u=047b32e7f58e3630278c76a7f&id=9faf3094f5&popup=true" accept-charset="UTF-8" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data" data-dojo-attach-point="formNode" novalidate="" Firefox 52.9.0 ESR / macOS 10.14.0 (also tested in Safari, Chrome, Opera with same result) Edit: it appears on the SR story page too. At least the page can be scrolled under it, and read around the banner. Personally, I try not to click on popups, because it can lead to unexpected results.
  12. Something wrong with the story link. I'm trying to access the story from here, because the pop-up thing on the front page happens before I can click on a story link there. I know ad rates are terrible today. But that front-page popup is majorly annoying.
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    What to do with 8 new FC Drives

    Yes, eBay. Don't try for a swap, you'll wait too long for someone with the right combination. Sell them, buy what you need.
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    What to do with 8 new FC Drives

    Can you return the drives? Especially for an exchange if the store also sells SAS?
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    Toshiba L200

    Just visited Newegg for something else. Random observation: When the 2TB Toshiba L200 first hit at $90, M9T prices on Newegg were $156-200. Today, about a month later. The L200 is still at $90. All the other 2TB drives (7-9.5mm, including the M9T) have dropped to $90 or below. The benefits of competition.
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    Samsung 860DCT SSD Review Discussion

    I brought this up here a short time ago. SR needs to link these graphs to an explanation page, or people are going to keep asking. They're testing loads at successive % of capacity (0% - 120%) for each drive on a third axis (not shown). Then measuring both X and Y values. At any given test point, there is only one measurement. For each drive, the graph gets weird when they hit 100% of their capacity. Flatter, more-natural curves are typical of higher-performance drives.
  17. Thanks, that makes sense. As opposed to people not noticing a glitch for 8 months. I couldn't picture how you'd get such graphs by setting either axis, then measuring the other. You're actually setting values on a 3rd axis (% of capacity) then measuring both X and Y.
  18. It's not just this review. I started checking older reviews in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Opera. It's the graphs, not the browsers. Here's a typical one: My personal favorite, resembling kindergarten scribbles: Am I the only person who noticed the corruption? Checking reviews, it began happening around January 2018. Dec 22, 2017. Crucial MX500 1TB review. Graph is clean. Jan 10, 2018. Crucial MX500 500GB review. Corruption present. It appears the graph data avoids an elliptical region in the upper right corner. But the ellipse size and proportions vary by graph.
  19. How did you get the impossible graphs? Graphs #2, 4, 5, 6, 7 require multiple measured values for some levels of IOPs or throughput. Assuming you threw IOPs at it, and measured the latency. There's some minor glitching in the comparison drives too. But the 660p is the main culprit, with squiggly plots.
  20. It looks like we'll be getting some long-term reliability stats on Toshiba 14TBs as well. BackBlaze is buying 1,200 for deployment. From their Q2 2018 stats: StorageReview does different tests, so we're going to have a broad data set on the 9-platter design. I'm looking forward to the SR review. If the drives are good enough, they may force Seagate to start shipping HAMR models.
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    Toshiba L200

    The key concern is SSD price. If SSD prices crashed, I'd completely lose interest in HDDs. But SSDs remained stubbornly high for several years, then resumed a slow downward creep. Since SSDs don't drop despite repeated process improvements and new factories opening, the only near-term hope is larger HDDs. At least those have to be competitively priced to sell vs SSDs. So upgrade choices are: (A) no upgrade, keep waiting. (B) 4TB SSD for $1000+. (C) potential 3TB HDD in the $120--140 range. I've been stuck at (A) for around 4 years now, because I'm not willing to be ripped off with (B). In my experience, most people do not like to be ripped off. That leaves denser HDDs as the only realistic hope.
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    Toshiba L200

    The sizes offered imply it's a 2-platter drive. Which would be inline with current platter densities. If it is PMR, it would be a solid improvement over the M9T (3 platters). Since Toshiba offers that (3.5") 14TB PMR drive with a crazy 9 platters, it opens the door to a 3-platter 3TB in the near future. Maybe we'll finally get some upgrade options before SSDs take over the space.
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    Any word of new 2.5 drives above 2 TB?

    The annual tradition resumes. I'm approaching a vacation, and looking to upgrade my laptop. Newegg lists: 2TB HDDs (reported to be SMR): $80-94 2TB M9T (PMR): $157-200 (now 4+ years since introduction) 2TB SSD: $314 4TB SSD: $1,100 With SSD prices falling and the M9T going up, they could pass each other in a year. If they do before <= 9.5mm 3/4TB HDDs are introduced, then SSDs will exterminate all laptop HDDs. Permanent loss of a market. External 2.5s will last a bit longer. I hope the HDD makers are pleased. I'm certainly not.
  24. The V300 comes in 1-3 TB @5940 RPM. Is this a 2.5" drive? If so, what thickness, especially on the 3TB? We're long overdue for a 3TB in 7-9.5mm form factor. I tried the Toshiba link for more info, but it goes to their memory section. Flash products, and no hard drives.
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    Seagate Announces 14TB Helium HDD

    14TB and Helium. Sounds good, but all the other important specs are missing. Also missing on the pictured label - they should be in the blank space below the barcode. RPM? Cache? Sustained sequential transfer speed? Platter count? PMR/SMR/host-managed SMR? MTBF?