Big_Al_C

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  1. MRFS, Sorry for the delay, but holidays and all. >I searched Toshiba's website... http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/support_services/advanced_format.html The Paragon Alignment Tool for Toshiba AF 512e Drives (PAT) has been specially optimized for Toshiba AF 512e hard drives. E-Mailing Toshiba got me this: The PAT for Toshiba AF 512e Drives is STRICTLY an Alignment tool, NOT a "MBR fixer" such as Seagate and WD's version of Acronis's Extended Capacity Manager have for their 3TBers, like the YouTube I posted above. >I only connected it to 2 different ports on a Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit system You might want to check these out. LOTS of info and NEW Intel Drivers http://www.servethehome.com/fix-746gb-3tb-hard-drive-issue/ http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/sftwr-prod/imsm https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=7838〈=eng Well, I HATE to admit defeat, but since I CANNOT find the Ghost v11.5.1.2298 from GSS 2.5.1 that DOES see GPT HDD's, I've concluded that my only recourse is to relegate my 3TB to GPT and to BACKUP status to my 2TB Toshiba and dusted-off 1TB Hitachi MBR HDD's that I'll be using as my main drives. After numerous E-Mails to a bunch of Cloning Software companies, I've settled on MiniTool Partition Wizard v8.1.1 from http://www.partitionwizard.com (To top it off, it's FREE!!!) to pre-partition my 3TBer and to do the "Copy partitions from my 1 and 2TB MBR's to partitions on my 3TB GPT" and use my Ghost v11.5.1.2269's Make and Restore Bootable CD's to do my MBR C and D Drive imaging chores. What I will be doing is have the 3TB in a Kingwin KF-813-BK Mobile Rack http://kingwin.com/products/cate/mobile/racks/kf_813_bk.asp installed in my computer case with the power turned "off". After letting Ghost make a new image of my C or D Drive and dumping it on the E Drive, I'll shut down, turn the 3TB's key "On", start the computer and then copy the newly made image(s) to the E partition on the 3TB as a backup. Again, I HATE to admit defeat, but this has eaten up enough of my time and I'm "Puttin it to bed" today. I'll keep this page on a shortcut and check it periodically to see if anyone has come up with a link for the Ghost.exe v11.5.1.2298 that would solve this problem, but I'm not holding my breath! Again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your extensive input. Big Al
  2. MRFS, Remember, my boot C Drive is on my MBR SSD. My "Destination" drive for my Ghost images is the E Drive, also on the SSD. >Windows can operate AOK with MBR partitions >on one HDD and GPT partitions on a second HDD Since I use my "Manual Ghost" CD to do the cloning, the GPT will be invisible to it. >If you go with 4K sectors on your 3TB Toshiba, >you are taking a predictable risk that the other >software you have installed will NOT like >those 4K sectors. >chiefly the combined risks that your >existing version of Ghost >won't like those 4K sectors either, and >neither will other software that needs >to do I/O with a 4K MBR. I built my computer in August, 2011. I've pre-partitioned ALL of its HDD's with EaseUS Partition Master and with my "Manual Ghost" CD, cloned all of the partitions from my initial 1TB Hitachi HDD. ALL 3 of my hard drives, 1, 2 and new 3TB are the Advanced Format ones that I used (not 3TB yet) their factory software to "Align". So the "4096", "NTFS" and "Format" that will (hopefully) be done to the 3TB has been serving my 1 and 2TBers quite well for over 2 years without any hiccups. These are screens of my existing 2TB: The bottom line is that I was after one of two things: A version of Ghost that would "play nice" with both MBR and GPT. OR A way to make my 3TB ALL MBR, so the "finding a newer version of (or replacement for) Ghost" question becomes moot. I'll wait to hear back from people with 3TBers who have gone the "4096", "NTFS" and "Format" route and see if they experience any problems. Big Al
  3. Dear MRFS, Boy, when you investigate an issue, YOU INVESTIGATE AN ISSUE!! OK, First: >because I may want to purchase one of these 3TB Toshiba HDDs Well, it IS Christmas, and $100 ain't bad for 3TBs! http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=PH3300U-1I72&_sop=15 Or $113 at Walmart http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-Laptop-PC-3TB-3.5-Internal-Hard-Drive/22236172 >Yes, we also use GHOST here, and I understand your >hesitation to use another imaging program. I have been a Ghost user since version 6. I ALWAYS use it with DOS Bootable CDs I make with custom Autoexec.bat files I write, NEVER Windows. http://nightowl.radified.com/bootcd/bootcdintro.html My latest Ghost is v11.5.1.2269, which I found out from Symantec has issues with GPT. When I load my "Make C" CD, it loads Ghost, makes an image of my C Drive and stores it on my E Drive as "Newest.gho". It then CRC checks (verifies) the image and then (if the image passes inspection) shows a black screen with a blinking cursor. At that screen, I remove my Bootable CD and reboot into Windows. The image that Ghost makes can have ANY file deleted OR added to the image using "Ghost Explorer" and will restore as if it were never touched. When I load my "Restore C" CD, it loads Ghost, goes to the E Drive, finds "Newest.gho" and overwrites the C Partition. If I want to clone a partition, I load my "Manual Ghost" CD, it loads Ghost and I then select a partition on the "Source" HDD and then find the proper sized empty partition on the "Destination" HDD and tell Ghost to have at it. If the source is Fat32 and the destination is NTFS, after cloning, the destination is now Fat32. You might want to bookmark these GREAT Ghost sites: http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl http://nightowl.radified.com/bootcd/bootcdintro.html >I use Norton's Ghost weekly and it has issues with GPT. After searching the Symantec site a LOT, the bottom line was that my Ghost is v11.5.1.2269 (From Ghost Solution Suite 2.5) must be updated to v11.5.1.2298. I have no way to do that and this came up too: Does Ghost work with GPT partition tables? The GPT supports up to 128 partitions and uses a false Master Boot Record (MBR) with only one entry that points at the GPT. This is for legacy compatibility reasons. Because the Ghost virtual partition replaces the MBR with it's own version, it will cause problems with systems that use a GPT. AND THIS HORROR: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=DOC6587 HOWEVER, I'm a pretty good investigator too: I found a way to make my 3TB FULLY accessible and set as MBR. It's Acronis True Image, aka Seagates DiskWizard aka WD's version of DiskWizard. It puts an "Extended Capacity Manager" in the boot sector so you get one 2.1TB and one 700+GB partition, BOTH MBR. See: Seagate DiscWizard CloneDisc For Drives Larger Than 3TB_Part-2 I'm STILL sticking with my Ghost Bootalbe CD's, but to get full MBR I'll buy the Acronis if I HAVE to,UNLESS...... I just found this: Make SURE the 3TB is EMPTY as this will wipe ALL data on the drive To make a fully accessible 3TB with 4k sector: 1. Boot to desktop. 2. Open "My Computer" in Windows Explorer. 3. Click on the EMPTY 3TB HDD. 4. If the factory made some partitions on it, delete them all. 5. Once it is just one disk, right-click it and click "Format" 6. Select "4096", "NTFS" and "Format". 7. Click OK. Since the 3TB is EMPTY, it should be real quick. 8. It's now ready to be partitioned to your liking up to 2.7 or so TB's total and is set as MBR. NOW, I need feedback from anyone who has used these programs OR the "4096", "NTFS" and "Format" method to see if the 3TBers work as any other HDD would or are there any quirks that have come up since partitioning your 3TB? Please post to me. Thanks in advance for your help.
  4. MRFS>Hi, I run Windows 7 Pro SP-1 64-Bit 3TB.Unlocker http://www.asrock.com/feature/3TB/index.asp "The fantastic 3TB+ Unlocker tool offers a tweak-friendly feature, breaking the limitation of 32-bit operation system that could only detect the hard disk within 2048GB." >I installed Windows 7 on a pre-partitioned SSD >The PH3200U-1I72 is used as storage only >I bought a Toshiba PH3300U-1I72 3TB HDD to replace the 2TB With UEFI, you can enjoy 3TB bootable HDD size. Installing OS on a HDD Larger Than 2TB >I use Norton's Ghost weekly and it has issues with GPT. >"If your new drive uses 4K sector sizes you wouldn't need to have a GPT." you still need to convert the drive to a GPT Thanks for the effort. Al
  5. OK guys, course is changing a little: I would make 5 partitions, 4 NTFS and one small FAT32. I use Norton's Ghost weekly and it has issues with GPT. I proceeded to contact various partitioning/cloning software companies to see if their products could be used in place of Ghost. The partial exchange below is between TeraByte Unlimited and me: TBU: "If your new drive uses 4K sector sizes you wouldn't need to have a GPT." Me: Please elaborate. BTW, This is what my present Toshiba 2TB looks like: TBU: If you expose the 4K sector size and not the emulated normal 512 byte sector size, you can use an MBR and use the entire space (up to 16TiB). 0xFFFFFFFF*512=2,199,023,255,040 0xFFFFFFFF*4096=17,592,186,040,320 Me: With what software and what is the procedure to go about doing this? Can it be done via a Bootable CD or must it be done in Windows with just my SSD and empty 3TB connected? TBU: It would be a drive feature/option, typically using a jumper. The BIOS would also have to support the larger sizes too so it doesn't crash reading larger sectors, a modern BIOS should be able to handle it. My hunt for answers from Toshiba is a lost cause as their support is a TOTAL joke and does NOT offer E-Mail support. So, I'm here to find out if this "exposing the 4K sector size" can, indeed, be done to my PH3300U-1I72, and if so, EXACTLY how to go about doing it. Also, are there any shortcomings to having the Toshiba "exposing the 4K sector size" using 5 partitions, 4 NTFS and one small FAT32? Big Al
  6. Hi, I run Windows 7 Pro SP-1 64-Bit with a ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) MoBo that has a UEFI BIOS. I have: EaseUS Partition Master Pro v9.2.2 EaseUS Partition Wizard Home v8.1.1 Acronis Disk Director 11 Home Acronis True Image 2014 My C, D and E partitions are on a 120 GB NTFS SSD with a MBR. I installed Windows 7 on a pre-partitioned SSD so no hidden "System Partition". I installed a Toshiba PH3200U-1I72 2TB HDD that is Advanced Format 512e and is properly "Aligned" using the Toshiba provided utility. The PH3200U-1I72 is used as storage only on partitions "F" thru "M" set as MBR and working perfectly as below: F is 1.7 TB's Set As NTFS G is 1 GB's Set As Fat32 H is 5 GB's Set As Fat32 I is 4 GB's Set As NTFS J is 30 GB's Set As Fat32 K is 20 GB's Set As Fat32 L is 50 GB's Set As Fat32 M is 50 GB's Set As Fat32 I bought a Toshiba PH3300U-1I72 3TB HDD to replace the 2TB. I know that 3TBers can't utilize the full capacity in MBR, and must be set as GPT to do so. I use Norton's Ghost weekly and it has issues with GPT. I proceeded to contact various partitioning/cloning software companies to see if their products could be used in place of Ghost. The exchange below is between TeraByte Unlimited and me: TBU: "If your new drive uses 4K sector sizes you wouldn't need to have a GPT." Me: Please elaborate. BTW, This is what my present Toshiba 2TB looks like (Near the bottom): http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147334%28v=ws.10%29.aspx TBU: If you expose the 4K sector size and not the emulated normal 512 byte sector size, you can use an MBR and use the entire space (up to 16TiB). 0xFFFFFFFF*512=2,199,023,255,040 0xFFFFFFFF*4096=17,592,186,040,320 Me: With what software and what is the procedure to go about doing this? Can it be done via a Bootable CD or must it be done in Windows with just my SSD and empty 3TB connected? TBU: It would be a drive feature/option, typically using a jumper. The BIOS would also have to support the larger sizes too so it doesn't crash reading larger sectors, a modern BIOS should be able to handle it. My hunt for answers from Toshiba is a lost cause as their support is a TOTAL joke and does NOT offer E-Mail support. Soooooooooo, I'm here to find out if this "exposing the 4K sector size" can, indeed, be done to my PH3300U-1I72, and if so, EXACTLY how to go about doing it. Thanks in advance for any help you can be. Big Al