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  1. 2 points
    Minimal, I'm not sure it consumed more than a couple hundred MHz during the time we had it going in the background. We've been working with the Nexenta team over the duration of that review and they are still working on it internally. Should hopefully find out more soon on that topic.
  2. 2 points
    For USB storage it means the device supports 16 byte commands (so these can be used instead of 10 byte commands, which are limited to 2 TB). Of course, you also need an OS which supports 16 byte commands itself, but it doesn't have to be a 64 bit OS. Something like Windows 7 x86 supports >2TB disks just fine. BTW: You can check for support even without having a drive >2TB available by simply checking if the 16 byte commands are implemented. The reason why you see those "tested capacities" in advertisements, because those resellers don't really have a clue what they sell. They order a container full of some USB gadgets from a Chinese OEM and then "test" what works with it. Fun fact: eSATA never had any capacity limits. I have still have old USB 2.0 docking stations, which work fine with 4 and 6 TB drives using the eSATA ports.
  3. 2 points
    JEDEC spec for unpowered SSD retention isn't the same as data decay lifetime, but since I've already dug it up... http://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the-truth-about-ssd-data-retention For drives that are worn out-- estimated wear left per drive spec (and reported via SMART) is zero: Client SSD: 30C ambient, 1 year. Enterprise SSD: 40C ambient, 3 months. There's some nice charts showing temperature vs. time relationships in there as well. Given we know that modern SSDs can run way, way past their specified lifetimes... quoted from the same link:: Micron states similar: http://www.micron.com/about/blogs/2015/may/addressing-data-retention-in-ssds
  4. 2 points
    Hah, they're not going to take Optimus Max to client systems any time soon, but they certainly could. I'd bet we'll have 2TB client SSDs next year though from Samsung and maybe Micron. SanDisk's client business isn't really that strong comparatively.
  5. 2 points
    Put them in a server and run some sort of SDS on top of it like Nexenta. Fun learning experience and gets you a cheap SAN.
  6. 2 points
    Note the three years in between though...they've been surprised by the interest in the platform I think. Now, if WD could just get those 2.5" Reds up to 2TB in a 9.5mm...
  7. 2 points
    Long-time watcher of StorageReview, but I registered just to be able to comment on this review. An excellent review, though your testing seems a bit high-end for the likely intended usage. I'd bet the majority of the target users for this SOHO device won't have a backbone that supports iSCSI or even dual-port aggregation. As you point out, 2-10 users in a casual / small office setting or for home use seems a likely audience. Such an audience would be much more likely to have an entry-level GbE switch as opposed to a managed backbone that costs 10x more. To that point, I've used the entire line of BlackArmor devices, and there are three critical issues common to them that seem to be repeated with the replacement Business Storage line... none of which are mentioned in the review, but they may not impact everyone so I'm not sure they necessarily bear mentioning up-front. 1) Performance. You obtained okay numbers in your testbed, but as summarized above, I doubt you'd see that infrastructure in the wild. I'd suggest you at least pair it with testing results from a cheapo GbE switch using a single LAN plug and simple Windows file sharing / disk mapping. Unless the BS line has markedly improved from the BA line, you'll see performance on the order of 15 MB/s read, 10 MB/s write. Horrendous for anything but backups, really, which is all I use my BA boxes for. Also, I recognize that there's a massive disparity of price points and target audience, but I get 110 MB/s--TEN TIMES the performance--from my Synology boxes, and 50-70 MB/s from my Drobos. And that's on a cost-conscious backbone of entry-level GbE switches using one LAN port per device and simple, iSCSI-less file sharing in Windows. There's no comparison at all. 2) Compatibility. Massively overpriced with disks, the BA and BS line are very reasonable when purchased diskless. I've used Buffalo, Seagate, Synology, and Drobo NAS boxes in small-business and personal settings, and diskless BA/BS boxes are far and away the cheapest way really of adding reliable (but not fast!) NAS storage in such contexts. But these NAS boxes only support Seagate disks. True, this is a Seagate device, but it seems as though someone had to intentionally code a rejection routine into the firmware, which is just kind of an obnoxious move. In addition, some of the compatibility notes for "certified drives" listed for the BA line are flat-out falsified--the diskless BA 400 will simply NOT work with the 1.5 TB desktop line of Seagate disks, period. 3) Risk. For those who know what they're doing, these are fairly easy boxes to deploy, and the web-based UI is second only to Synology's in my experience. But it's easy, far too easy, to make a catastrophic mistake. For example, if you set up a BA box using one LAN port, and then try to plug in a second LAN plug, it will not only not work, but it has a strong chance of corrupting the entire array, forcing you to not only lose all data and set everything up again, but in order to even begin to do so, you must eject each disk individually and reformat it using a separate computer. Otherwise it won't set itself up. Now, much of my comments above are from my experience with the older BA boxes, but I'd like to know if those issues have been resolved with the replacement BS line. Anyway, as always, I love seeing info on Storage Review.com so keep up the good work!
  8. 2 points
    You're almost right here. What's missing is that copying small files, even from the same directory, will automatically include some random access too. The files being read may be spread across the disk, they may be written different locations, filling up holes in the current file structure (what ever the OS see fit) and the MFT may be accessed. That's why multi-threaded copy for higher queue depths still improves throughput: the disk can arrange the accesses better through NCQ and can reduce access times. BTW: if the folders you're copying are often the same I'd look into incremental sync'ing with e.g. DirSync (nice freeware). Not sure it can increase QD, but it certainly saves time not to transfer untouched files again. And I'm not a fan of buying large SSDs for storage, that's often a waste of money (IMO). I'd rather use the SSD for temperary storage and as automatic cache. If you're concerned with many small files an SSD would be ideal. And if the SSD cache also buffers writes you may see a massive speed increase. The cache capacity would also be huge compared to the amount of storage required for small files MrS
  9. 1 point
    I'm glad you asked We're talking right now about what's next and SolidFire is definitely on the list of reviews we're discussing.
  10. 1 point
    Thanks for pointing that out, fixed the numbers. Still a far cry from 1000X endurance though
  11. 1 point
    I've developed the impression all inexpensive Seagate 8TB drives are SMR. They're cagey about it - I pulled the data sheet on the 8TB Backup Plus above. It didn't give away if it was SMR or PMR.
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  13. 1 point
    We had troubles with an Adaptec SFF-8087 cable: there was something proprietary about that cable. We switched to a StarTech SFF-8087 cable and it works great with our Highpoint RocketRAID 2720SGL. MRFS
  14. 1 point
  15. 1 point
    Seagate is Best Ever.... But Toshiba is another substitution... Currently i have Seagate ST2000DX001 SSHD and use it nicely...
  16. 1 point
    We've thought about doing more content around home lab setups for virtualization but it's just not something we've had time to do. As an aside, if anyone is interested in such, please let us know.
  17. 1 point
    Wow, you dug up an old one. The SD card is a storage volume, it doesn't add to memory. They're fine for holding files that are backed up elsewhere but they're not ideal as primary storage. Yes you can use an SSD in the main bay and the mSATA slot, though there are few options for the latter.
  18. 1 point
    Sadly 1,024 is the current cap. More sadly we only have two systems. I'll ask for a few more
  19. 1 point
    What you should consider, is a Secure Erase on all of the SSDs. This is the best freshening for SSDs. It can be done using Parted Magic (bootable USB drive). Check an older version when it was free. Current version isn't free anymore. But the old one does the job.
  20. 1 point
    The EMC guys I know in our area use RoundTower and are generally happy. We've also worked pretty closely with DataLink...in fact one of their guys is going to contribute a content series to the site. As our annual spend is $0 though, we don't have a lot of direct experience
  21. 1 point
    The Rosewill stuff I've seen is pretty value oriented...it's fine but nothing excellent. Icy Dock makes some nice enclosures, but they're much more expensive on NewEgg at least given what you're looking at now. I don't know Ultra at all, but I'd trust the reviews on Amazon. The drives don't care which way they're facing. As to mixing in 2.5" drives, you may be better off keeping similar drives together. The variation in spindle speed *may* cause a small or poorly designed enclosure to vibrate more. Probably not a crisis, but something to think about.
  22. 1 point
    15 TB: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/samsung-unveils-2-5-inch-16tb-ssd-the-worlds-largest-hard-drive/
  23. 1 point
    We have heard several good customer stories about Nutanix. Would be great if you can share more about your implementation and config.
  24. 1 point
    There's a WD rep in the forums, perhaps he can weigh in on this query.
  25. 1 point
    Well, I have to be careful not to speak too highly Synology when I haven't used QNAP. I know QNAP has an outstanding reputation too. But, for my needs Synology has been stellar. They have excellent on-disk encryption support and have apps for Android, iOS, etc... there's a very effective Web client that works nicely on the Linux boxes I've tried it from. Plus support for all the file sharing protocols you can imagine. Connectivity won't be a problem. Regarding offline access to files, Synology allows you to create offline copies of folders using their app called DS File. I've used it on iOS and it works fine. It doesn't have the automatic deletion of old stuff you were asking for, but if you don't mind a little manual management, it'll do the job. On backups, you've got a few options. With an existing WD NAS device, you can just schedule a backup job on the Synology and it will back up to the WD device. Also, it supports some nice cloud providers so you can (selectively) backup folders to the cloud, including built in support for encryption. I don't remember the name, but I know they have out of the box for a EU or UK based cloud provider. Might be all you need. Perhaps someone more familiar with QNAP can comment on what their support is like. I expect it's probably quite similar to Synologys.
  26. 1 point
    I recently bought a new 8TB Archive disk (ST8000AS0002). Unfortunately, writing large amounts of data to this disk almost always results in timeouts where the write process stalls for minutes and eventually the OS decides the disk is not accessible any more, resets the SATA bus or even deactivates the SATA port (until the next reboot). This of course results in corrupted files. I already changed cables, disk location in my PC, and actually had the disk itself replaced too. SMART information and selftests of the disk do not show any failures or errors. I know the design of SMR drives require an internal reorganization when large amounts of data are being written but I would have expected this to result in slower but somewhat constant write rates, not write stalls taking more than a minute. Is this behaviour intentional? If so, is there a maximum allowed stall time that I can configure somwhere? Thank you! Hardware: MSI-7817 Haswell chipset, i5-4570 CPU, 8GB RAM
  27. 1 point
    I've only used them in regards to boot drives. The R630 server we had in for a bit used them in RAID1 for boot, while the SanDisk varients were for performance storage. I'd say they are more similar to a consumer product than an enterprise one, and wouldnt compete with the S3500. Maybe think of it more like comparing to the SSD 530.
  28. 1 point
    HGST makes client drives too. The Chinese government won't allow the companies to fully integrate. So what you'll see is two separate companies like Kevin said, and then WD and HGST may sort of fake their way into better alignment by dropping competitive products or segmenting them so they stratify within a product category.
  29. 1 point
    The new WD Black is fast - beating all other 4TB competition in every test. WD Black 4TB Desktop Hard Drive Review (WD4003FZEX)
  30. 1 point
    Seagate has all the information you could want on their site. You can come back here to read reviews of most of the products you listed.
  31. 1 point
    To be fair they're not claiming this would ship in mass quantities to end user stores. I concur with Brian in that it's probably SMR and by "support for archive workloads" they actually mean "don't try to use this for anything else than archive workloads". By "consistent enterprise-class performance" they probably mean "it's always slow". If it was any better than this they surely would have said so. That's not to say the drive wouldn't have its place.. but I think it may actually be good to limit their availability for now. BTW: it's no excuse, but Seagate has been soft-launchnig drives for years. Sometime retail availability took a full year! I see no reason to get any more tired of this than in the past years. MrS
  32. 1 point
    From what I have seen, there is an increasing trend of large slow discs cached with SSDs in a giant RAID10. It sounds like an interesting idea but I am a bit skeptical still. One of the things I have been wondering about: from a virtualization storage perspective, it would seem that the resultant large cluster sizes (ie. for a 32TB volume) would cause performance issues. What are some of your experiences with this?
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  34. 1 point
    Samsung is #1 in SSD drive shipments. I'd love to be crap if that's what it looks like, lol.
  35. 1 point
    I don't trust any programs that can migrate just programs. It depends on the program and OS, but IMO, it is better to take the time to reinstall it. Games might be easier to depending on how you installed them. For example, games through Steam are easy to migrate(see here) I would: 1) Make backups of all important information 2) Install SSD and disconnect the hdd(prevent swindows from putting some boot files on the hdd) 3) Install windows 4) Install the hdd and assign it a drive letter. 5) Install what you want on the SSD. Programs on the old HDD shouldn't cause any conflicts so you can either just delete the folders or leave them there. 6) When installing new programs, make sure to verify the install path.
  36. 1 point
    I hate how they spend hours to tell what can be done with this new drive, yet even on the homepage under "What’s In the Hard Drive?" they don't provide a single detail except the 7.2k rpm spindle speed. Anyway, "25% faster than HGST" probably means STR, which means at least 1 TB platters (compared to 800 GB in the He6). The picture also shows 6 platters, but you never know if this is actually a picture of this drive. Anyway, competition and innovation are certainly welcome in the long-stagnated HDD market. And it seems like HGST needs to update their He drive with at least 1 TB platters! With a premium technology you have to leading, otherwise the cheaper and simpler solution wins. MrS
  37. 1 point
    Yes and you'll get the glory of performance!
  38. 1 point
    I believe they just rate minimum endurance figures, with some expectation that the models will support more than that in certain scenarios. They just won't warranty anything above that.
  39. 1 point
    If your budget allows it that larger one would be nice since you could string more devices from it. The nice thing is both of those units have very easy to replace batteries, which can be had for about 1/5th the overall price. Usually you're looking at a 2-5 year lifespan depending on usage.
  40. 1 point
    I think they bumped it up recently... both are at the 1M value. Also if that HGST model is the best price for that capacity, I wouldn't go for anything else.... you really can't beat that performance or reliability for better price.
  41. 1 point
    Your Toshiba 2.5" HDD appears to be a standard laptop SATA "form factor": as such, there appears to be an adapter affixed to that Toshiba HDD, which mates with the data and power connectors on your laptop motherboard. In your last photo above, just count the pins. BIG CLUE was your statement that you just "drop it in": that appears to be the geometry implied by those 2 rows of contact pins. MY SUGGESTION / FWIW: remove the Toshiba entirely, and check to see if you can remove the plastic adapter: it may be screwed on, or it may be a "press fit" (as we used to say, when I was a carpenter). "Press Fit" means NO FASTENERS (nails or screws etc.) I'm making that suggestion because I upgraded a laptop for a friend, about 5 years ago, and it also had the same type of adapter: I merely removed the adapter from the old 2.5" HDD and installed that adapter on the new 2.5" HDD, and the new HDD worked fine. 2.5" SATA SSDs have the same connector geometry as 2.5" SATA HDDs. Therefore, if that adapter can be removed you should try attaching it to your 2.5" SSD, being very careful not to bend any pins. Hope this helps. UPDATE: Here's what your Toshiba MK1665GSX HDD2H85 looks like, as manufactured by the factory i.e. withOUT that plastic adapter: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MK1665GSX-NDW
  42. 1 point
    If price isn't crucial you could look at enterprise drives, but I'm guessing those will be out of the ballpark in terms of what you want to spend. Don't really need speed...could do Seagate NAS drives. We're using them effectively here - http://www.storagereview.com/supermicro_superworkstation_5037ai_review Deskstar 5K is another good choice. The new WD Blacks are really nice in terms of speed...there are so many variables, it mostly comes back to budget.
  43. 1 point
    All of the other rumors were reported as facts, but then they fell through one way or another. Do you have a picture of the actual drive, open showing the controller? I don't mean to be brash, but rumors run wild with OCZ.
  44. 1 point
    Sounds like you should just buy a Synology or perhaps a Netgear in five/six bay config.
  45. 1 point
    Hello, I hooked up my new 3T my book for mac to my MBAir which read the drive well with no problems. However, after I did a full ejections of the few partitions of the drive, and the few partitions then disappeared from the computer screen, and turned off the power, I thought the ejection was complete. But I left the drive still hooked up to the computer , thinking it was powered off. Hours later, my computer screen showed the warning that the drive was not properly ejected and the power was on! What should I do to eject the drive correctly, disconnect the drive from the computer without unhooking it from the computer and removing the ac power plug? I have a different maxtor external hard drive and it is ok once I eject the drive, turn off the ac power switch but leaving it connected to the computer. No further warning that the drive is improperly ejected. Please help and thanks. Gerry.
  46. 1 point
    I was reminiscing about the WD Expert 18gb review I read here in 1999 and I can't find it, also the google cache isn't finding it properly either. Are these still around? That's from an era when I would read this site daily and read every review religiously. Anyone?
  47. 1 point
    I'd love to see an interview from someone at Toshiba about their 3.5" HDD plans for the rest of this year. Is there any chance SR could interview someone at Toshiba? I'd like to know what consumer or prosumer 3.5" HDDs Toshiba plans to sell in the near future, and when they plan to release them. Most of HGST's large 5400rpm HDDs seem to be disappearing from the market, and I wonder whether they will reappear under a Toshiba label, and if so, when?
  48. 1 point
    I can see clearly in the HDD forum a thread with RE4 in it yet when i search your search engine says this No results found for 're4'. eh?
  49. 1 point
    My F6 key doesn't work when i press it during the windows xp setup at the period where it says press f2 blah blah, press f6 blah blah. I've tried the key on two keyboards, an older keyboard without the F Lock function and my new one with the F Lock key. I have a gigabyte 8iPE1000 Pro 2 gt 2004 mobo. How could my F6 key not work? So dodgy.
  50. 1 point