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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:18 PM

alright, i'm more concerned of the head flying hours. mind you the numbers are changing wildly in the billions mark, as fast as i issue an a smartctl -a command...wtf?!?!??!?!

 

one second, 200 some trillion, next second 400 some trillion...

 

and today i went to set my energy drink on the encloure, it almost seems like an acoustic ding makes one of the two drives click...so for kicks i took my nail and flicked the side of the case, drive clicks....?????

 

i'm worried, these are raid5, but mdadm on creation of raid5 recongnizes them as mirrored, and will do parity build upon adding a 3rd drive. so right now if one pukes, i'm still safe, but, still, this is serious WTF material for such new drives with low hours. and they're lightly accessed....400kb-1Mb on local LAN for movie playing, they basically spin without any serious load, other then the occassional first sunday of the month check (mirror checking until 3rd drive, then parity checking)

 

i have 2 more ordered, will be here the 14th. i plan to make a 2nd array ( and properly sector align the partitions this time), duplicate everything,, destroy the 1st, triple check the first two drives, add a 3rd drive, let it resync, use resize2fs to grow the new MD size, then add the 4th, grow to raid6, ....and hope for the best. heh. this is the my first step, of expanding my home media server. 6tb at a time.

 

obvisouly i started small, and mdadm has fabulous features of expanding without headache, along side of ext4. thank god i picked this method, i'm emptying my 2Tb seed box maybe once every 10 weeks.

 

anyways, what you guys think of these wild smart reads??

i included some important system information.  it's a 2.8ghz when called

 

root@razorblade:/home/jason# uname -a
Linux razorblade 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 i686 GNU/Linux

 

root@razorblade:/home/jason# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : AuthenticAMD
cpu family    : 15
model        : 95
model name    : AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3800+
stepping    : 2
microcode    : 0x62
cpu MHz        : 1000.000
cache size    : 512 KB
fdiv_bug    : no
hlt_bug        : no
f00f_bug    : no
coma_bug    : no
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 1
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow up extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm svm extapic cr8_legacy
bogomips    : 2009.08
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

 

 

root@razorblade:/home/jason# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:         448204 kB
MemFree:          248404 kB
Buffers:           14676 kB
Cached:           133568 kB
SwapCached:            0 kB
Active:            66944 kB
Inactive:          95628 kB
Active(anon):      14796 kB
Inactive(anon):      208 kB
Active(file):      52148 kB
Inactive(file):    95420 kB
Unevictable:           0 kB
Mlocked:               0 kB
HighTotal:             0 kB
HighFree:              0 kB
LowTotal:         448204 kB
LowFree:          248404 kB
SwapTotal:             0 kB
SwapFree:              0 kB
Dirty:                 0 kB
Writeback:             0 kB
AnonPages:         14328 kB
Mapped:             9912 kB
Shmem:               688 kB
Slab:              29140 kB
SReclaimable:      21252 kB
SUnreclaim:         7888 kB
KernelStack:        1192 kB
PageTables:          868 kB
NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
Bounce:                0 kB
WritebackTmp:          0 kB
CommitLimit:      224100 kB
Committed_AS:     156044 kB
VmallocTotal:     576632 kB
VmallocUsed:       31864 kB
VmallocChunk:     544244 kB
HardwareCorrupted:     0 kB
AnonHugePages:         0 kB
HugePages_Total:       0
HugePages_Free:        0
HugePages_Rsvd:        0
HugePages_Surp:        0
Hugepagesize:       2048 kB
DirectMap4k:       41856 kB
DirectMap2M:      415744 kB

 

 

 

root@razorblade:/home/jason# cat /root/sda
smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [i686-linux-3.2.0-4-686-pae] (local build)
Copyright © 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     ST3000DM001-1CH166
Serial Number:    W1F42CEQ
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 06e302226
Firmware Version: CC27
User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   9
ATA Standard is:  Not recognized. Minor revision code: 0x001f
Local Time is:    Tue Mar 11 16:04:09 2014 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)    Offline data collection activity
                    was completed without error.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (  584) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      ( 255) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x3085)    SCT Status supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   108   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       16622608
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   095   093   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       41
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   061   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       17185157530
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       1870
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       41
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   072   066   045    Old_age   Always       -       28 (Min/Max 22/31)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       33
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       65
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   028   040   000    Old_age   Always       -       28 (0 17 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       34497177323342
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       13822404900
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       45934373780

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1316         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1311         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
 

 

 

and for sdb

 

 

root@razorblade:/home/jason# cat /root/sdb
smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [i686-linux-3.2.0-4-686-pae] (local build)
Copyright © 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     ST3000DM001-1CH166
Serial Number:    W1F440Q7
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 06e31d5e3
Firmware Version: CC27
User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   9
ATA Standard is:  Not recognized. Minor revision code: 0x001f
Local Time is:    Tue Mar 11 16:04:16 2014 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)    Offline data collection activity
                    was completed without error.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (  584) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      ( 255) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x3085)    SCT Status supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   108   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       15164504
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   095   093   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       41
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   058   058   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       30070347153
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       1870
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       41
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   071   066   045    Old_age   Always       -       29 (Min/Max 22/32)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       33
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       66
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   029   040   000    Old_age   Always       -       29 (0 17 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       9345848837966
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       7833754512
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       51393562395

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      1316         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1311         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay

 

 

 

 


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:13 AM

So I guess I'll trim so it fits better.

These measured in hex? Decimal? Hours? Secinds?



240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       34497177323342

240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       9345848837966
 
 
 
 


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:16 AM

It will likely need to be normalized, but doing that may difficult if there isn't a formula already.  Values depends on the FW, how the manufacturers sets them, issues with the program/interface, which can make it hard

 

It does not seem to a be a critical value, so I would not worry about.  Looks like overall, SMART passed which is good. There are critical values that you can look into to.

 

 

  • Read Error Rate [Stores data related to the rate of hardware read errors that occurred when reading data from a disk surface]
  • Reallocated Sector Count [When the hard drive finds a read/write/verification error, it marks this sector as "reallocated" and transfers data to a special reserved area (spare area).]
  • Spin Retry Count [stores a total count of the spin start attempts to reach the fully operational speed.]
  • End to End Error [after transferring through the cache RAM data buffer the parity data between the host and the hard drive did not match]
  • Command Timeout [The count of aborted operations due to HDD timeout]
  • Reallocation Event Count [Count of sector remap operations]
  • Current Pending Sector Count [Count of "unstable" sectors (waiting to be remapped, because of read errors). ]
  • Uncorrectable Sector Count [The total count of uncorrectable errors when reading/writing a sector.]
  • Soft Read Error Rate [Count of off-track errors.]

 

http://www.easis.com...rpretation.html

 

Clicking can be normal in some situations...some drives are known to click and it could be related to normal seek operations, head parking or power management features.

 

 

My suggestions:

 

1. Keep making backups/using RAID

2. Check SMART again with SeaTools

3. Check for FW(Seatools might have that option) else look for the latest FW version. It may help with the clicking as I think the ST3000DM001 was a model affected by it.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:23 AM

I'm on linux. So not sure of Seagate tools unless I move drives to another box/install.

And I just finished growing the array with 2 more of the same identical drives, took 60hrs.

Smart shirt and long passed on the 2 new, and again on the older droves.

The click I can make happen every time I flick the case. Not even the drive itself. I'm not going to experiment anymore until the reshape and filesystem grow has complete... I don't have any backups. Nothing important, just too lazy to download/rip everything again.

Hope I didn't invest in flukes.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:27 PM

Haha, I found some Seagate software for Linux. The 230KB program doesn't test sata/Pata/eide.

But the 16MB version on windows does.



Garbage company.. .

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