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#1 satelliteau

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:26 AM

Hi guys,

I have 4x Vertex 3 MaxIOP drives here that I purchased to build a Raid 0 array. I bought a Highpoint HBA 2720 (6gb/s SATA3 / pcie x8) and thought this would be a done deal. Problem is, I can't get more than 350MB/s out of a single drive plugged into this controller. We should be seeing 550MB/s.

So I'm shopping for a new one. I've asked OCZ / LSI / Highpoint / etc which controller will actually deliver full SATA3 throughput on a single port. And basically, none of them will disclose this information. "It's sata3 compatible" they say. Right - and I have a truckload of "1000Mbit/s" network cards here to sell you... they'll only transfer at 600Mbit/s, but hey, who's counting! :rolleyes:

I'm doing the Raid in software, so I don't actually need a Raid card, just a pcie->sata3 card. I've heard that the P67 chipset is great, but new mobos are not an option. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks,

Daniel.

#2 Brian

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 07:17 AM

We run drives through our LSI cards without any loss in throughput.

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#3 satelliteau

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 11:42 AM

We run drives through our LSI cards without any loss in throughput.


Thanks Brian. I've had a hard time finding benchmarks with individual drives. Can you be more specific re models? Do you know if the LSI Logic 9211-8i would be adequate?

#4 fib

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 06:53 AM

or buy some SLC drives and do not worry about anything. At least my 2 Foremay SLC (64 gb only) never degrade in performance.....no Cache on the drives, they are that good.

Here you can see what the drives perform on a ....... Adaptec 31205, not the greatest Raid Card ever. After 3 years of use, Trim not possible. Just ran Atto this week.

True LSI has great Sata-3 controllers, mine did get too hot actually....so i returned it.

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 07:25 AM

hi Guys,

forgot to add: here you can see the cristalbench of both the Adaptech and LSI back in 04/30/2010.

So as you can see not much difference from what i just added half an hour ago.

Why? Well i add to search for the LSI results. (You can hardly believe what a 6gb Card Sata-3 can do with Sata-2 drives.

do not know if both files will be attached, anyway i will add the missing file from 04/30/2010

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#6 fib

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:06 AM

apparantly the file is too big......2,10mb instead of 2mb.....



my god.



anyway i managed to get it down to 1.93 mb thanks to PAINT. Hopefully it gets there


thanks



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#7 fib

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:08 AM

so not.....
last effort


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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:11 AM

apparantly the file is too big......2,10mb instead of 2mb.....



my god.



anyway i managed to get it down to 1.93 mb thanks to PAINT. Hopefully it gets there


thanks



Jeff


#9 fib

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:12 AM

if this does not work, how about some help. But if it works, look at this LSI card.



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Posted 17 July 2011 - 09:14 AM

help please

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#11 Nizzen

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 05:42 PM

Best PCIe controller for fast (500MB/s+) SSD ?

Areca 1880ix with 4gb memory :)

#12 compwizrd

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 11:14 AM

fib: why are you running a 100MB bench? that should fit in the cache of most cards.

#13 MRFS

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 09:43 PM

Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the 2720.

You should probably be looking at a RAID card like Intel's RS2BL080:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16816117152

It has the same cabling topology i.e. 2 x SFF-8087 mini-SAS connectors.

I believe that a few other companies OEM this same card:
check the specs, to be sure.


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#14 MRFS

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 10:01 PM

Another thing is the chipset: you didn't mention the motherboard
or chipset that you were using with the 2720.

Even though a PCI-E slot is x16 mechanical, the chipset may only
assign x4 "actual" lanes.

And, there is a 2x difference between PCI-E 2.0 and PCI-E 1.0.

Here are the raw numbers (fastest first):

x8 PCI-E 2.0 @ 500MBps = 4,000 MBps (500x8)
x4 PCI-E 2.0 @ 500MBps = 2,000 MBps (500x4)
x8 PCI-E 1.0 @ 250MBps = 2,000 MBps (250x8)
x4 PCI-E 1.0 @ 250MBps = 1,000 MBps (250x4)

These numbers are "Max Headroom".


PCI-E 3.0 should be very interesting, because it will
increase the clock rate to 8G and upgrade to a
128b/130b jumbo frame, instead of the obsolete
current 8b/10b frame during transmission.

As such, 8G / ~8 bits per byte = ~ 1.0 GB/second raw bandwidth per lane
(instead of dividing by 10 bits per byte). This eliminates ~20% overhead.

I've been suggesting to Highpoint and several other companies
that they begin the engineering required to extend this
130/128 jumbo frame over the SATA cables too!

The PCI-E SIG is working on something like this right now,
designed to compete head-on with LightPeak aka Thunderbolt.


p.s. Some reviewers have solved this chipset limitation
by swapping the video card and RAID controller,
so the RAID controller occupies the first PCI-E x16 slot.

RTFM (Read The "Fine" Manual -- not always "Fine" however :)


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Posted 30 August 2011 - 10:36 AM

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?87529-4X-OCZ-Vertex-3-RAID-0-LSI-MegaRaid-9260-4i-with-Fastpath-gt-bad-performance!**Fixed**/page3

"Final word from Highpoint is that the OCZ Vertex 3 drives are not compatible with the RocketRAID 2720."


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