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#1 Brian

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:58 AM

Intel's success with the X25-M has been quite remarkable. Not only has the drive sold more than any other SSD on the market, it's had a solid track record for reliability and compatibility as well. It's with great anticipation that we've been waiting for Intel's next generation SSD - now it's here, the Intel SSD 510. Intel continues to build on their new naming scheme, the SSD 310 is their little mSATA SSD and now the SSD 510, a mainstream SSD leveraging a SATA 6Gb/s interface and 34nm NAND to yield speeds of up to 500MB/s sequential reads and 315MB/s writes for the 250GB capacity. Intel also offers a 120GB capacity that posts speeds of 450MB/s and 210MB/s.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:38 AM

1st review as far as I can see :)

Looking forward to more details...

I can see your enthusiasm, and there is at least one small error,
also pairs it up with 128GB of DDR3 DRAM for cache
should be 128MB, or else I'm buying them all :lol:

Edited by SSDaddict, 28 February 2011 - 11:38 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:44 AM

You pay for speed sometimes, thanks for the catch, fixed it.

We're running our benchmarks now. So far...interesting. Not going to blow the doors off, but I don't think that's really the intention here. We'll keep updating the review throughout the day.

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#4 Rekonn

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:59 AM

Cool, when it is going to be available at retail? And what is it going to cost?

#5 TSullivan

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:59 AM

1st review as far as I can see :)

Looking forward to more details...

I can see your enthusiasm, and there is at least one small error,
also pairs it up with 128GB of DDR3 DRAM for cache
should be 128MB, or else I'm buying them all :lol:


BBBUT its actually a RAM/NAND hybrid model :P

We had the drive in our hands for 30 minutes writing that up. Good catch.

So far performance falls between the 256GB C300 and the 240GB Vertex 3.

#6 Brian

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 12:09 PM

What is interesting will be the price. NE and Amazon don't have it listed yet. The press release gives $584 and $284 for the 250GB and 120GB SSDs, but that's in 1,000 quantities. We'll have to see what happens at retail as that will go a long way toward determining viability.

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#7 TSullivan

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 12:49 PM

Here are some quick and dirty CDM shots of the 510 on Intel ICH10R vs LSI 9260. One interesting thing is we don't really see much performance jump in random 4K write under higher queue depths.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:11 PM

great!
how this Disks will be named?
The full name will be Intel 510 SSD?

This isn't Intel G3, right?

#9 ravedave

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:18 PM

It appears the controller is the same as in the C400, the BKK2 model.

http://www.anandtech...rs-415mbs-reads

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:29 PM

great!
how this Disks will be named?
The full name will be Intel 510 SSD?

This isn't Intel G3, right?


Intel SSD 510

Intel G3 is a made up name by enthusiasts just meaning to give the next gen some sort of common name.

The next up? Intel SSD 710 enterprise drive.

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#11 sblantipodi

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:34 PM

Intel SSD 510

Intel G3 is a made up name by enthusiasts just meaning to give the next gen some sort of common name.

The next up? Intel SSD 710 enterprise drive.


So intel don't want to switch to 25nm for now?

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:39 PM

Here are some quick and dirty CDM shots of the 510 on Intel ICH10R vs LSI 9260. One interesting thing is we don't really see much performance jump in random 4K write under higher queue depths.


4K performance sort of resembles the other branch of Marvell based SSDs, Corsair P3 and so on.
Not exactly stellar performance but still far ahead of HDDs ;)
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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:05 PM

Intel SSD 510

Intel G3 is a made up name by enthusiasts just meaning to give the next gen some sort of common name.

The next up? Intel SSD 710 enterprise drive.


series 320 have G3 in model names at least ;), do you know anything about them?

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:08 PM

So intel don't want to switch to 25nm for now?


I suppose they don't feel like there's a need to. They probably have better pricing than most on NAND, so are afforded a little more flexibility in deciding when to go to 25nm. Performance wise though, there's no reason to switch. It's largely a cost/capacity issue.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:09 PM

series 320 have G3 in model names at least ;), do you know anything about them?


Fortunately or unfortunately I've been briefed on the SSD roadmap for 2011. That said, I can't say anything until the dates tick off on our NDA.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:22 PM

Fortunately or unfortunately I've been briefed on the SSD roadmap for 2011. That said, I can't say anything until the dates tick off on our NDA.



So is the Intel 510 SSD the honest-to-God successor to the Intel X25-M G2?

No 25nm NAND or Intel controller in the immediate future? This is the Postville Refresh?

Thanks.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:34 PM

There are a lot of definitive qualifications in your post, you know, invoking God and all ;)

But yes, this is it for now, the next drive up is the enterprise SSD 710 which Intel has mentioned in public already.

Otherwise I can't mention much of anything. If you want SATA 6Gb/s though, this is your Intel offering.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:14 PM

There are a lot of definitive qualifications in your post, you know, invoking God and all ;)

But yes, this is it for now, the next drive up is the enterprise SSD 710 which Intel has mentioned in public already.

Otherwise I can't mention much of anything. If you want SATA 6Gb/s though, this is your Intel offering.



Haha, thank you sir. Wish I could get the behind-the-scenes scoop on this one. Seems everything is different from what I had been expecting (http://www.anandtech...-specs-revealed).

Guess I'll see how the review pans out.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:43 PM

Considering Intel is part of the group that's pushing wide adoption of TBW ratings, what are the TBW values for these SSDs? They're not listed in the review (yet).

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 04:00 PM

Maybe I missed it, but any word on availability?

#21 Brian

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 04:04 PM

Haha, thank you sir. Wish I could get the behind-the-scenes scoop on this one. Seems everything is different from what I had been expecting (http://www.anandtech...-specs-revealed).

Guess I'll see how the review pans out.


TBW info has been requested and will be appended to both specs section and warranty info.

To the second question - availability is due immediately...as in any second. I really want to see what retail price looks like.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 04:08 PM

Thanks for posting the numbers! How does this compare to the G2 for someone with a 3GB/s controller? If Iím reading here correctly, here are the corresponding numbers for the G2 (from storagereview.com/intel_x25-m_ssd_review):

Seq Read (500 MB) = 261.8 MB/sec
Seq Write = 112.5 (MB/sec)
4K Read = 15.37 (MB/s)
4K Write = 40.93 (MB/s)
4K IOPS Read = 3935.8
4K IOPS Write = 10478.05

So it looks as though:

5200's sequential reads are roughly the same
5200's sequential writes are over twice as fast
5200ís 4K reads are roughly the same
5200ís 4K writes are roughly the same, though maybe slightly slower

The Intel Website reports IOPS specs, though Iím assuming that itís for a 6 GB/sec SATA controller.

Are these apple-to-apples measurements? I have a mechanical hard drive that is dying and Iím giving myself a crash course in SSDs to make a purchase decision very soon.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 04:31 PM

I'm curious too. I have a little over two weeks to return the OWC drive if I decide to. Seems like the performance on ICH10R might be similar, but if the Intel drive is close to it in price, I'd rather pay the same or a bit more for something that will be more futureproof for when I move to a chipset that has SATA-3 support in a year or two.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 05:29 PM

We just wrapped up our real-world benchmarks and all a bit ago. Overall not a bad drive. Falls in-between the C300 and the Vertex 3. Pricing will be key for this drive and how well it goes in the market.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 05:46 PM

Since I know a lot of you guys are watching this thread (and I know our formal charts won't be ready for a few more hours) here's a dump of our trace testing data so far:


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