[thinkliberty]

LaCie (www.lacie.com) by selling it's "LaCie Ethernet Disk RAID" is
violating copyrights of hundreds of software developers by distributing Linux,
Busybox, Samba, etc... Without a copy of the GPL (or even a notice of the gpl.)

I also called their tech support line (503-844-4503) and they have told me the
source code was not available and that the OS is proprietary. They said someone
would get back to me about it over 2 weeks ago. When I called back, they told me the
source code is not available.

See product at:
http://www.lacie.com...t.htm?pid=10876

They claim in the product spec sheet that the OS it is running is "Linux
2.6." So there is no question to if they are violating the GPL or not.

You can see they are using busybox (which is licensed under the GPL.) by downloading the latest firmware for the
product at:
ftp://207.189.107.14...24-external.zip
link from the page:
http://www.lacie.com...er.htm?id=10101

(send me a PM if you would like to know how to extract the
pkg file. It is just a tarball with some extra info at the start of the file.)

LaCie apparently believes it is above the GPL.

[bexamous]

http://www.lacie.com...er.htm?id=10069
http://www.lacie.com...cie-gpl.tar.bz2

I dunno what the hell this link is two, never looked at their products, also no idea how to get to this page from their main page.

[thinkliberty]

bexamous, on Mar 19 2007, 11:50 PM, said:

http://www.lacie.com...er.htm?id=10069
http://www.lacie.com...cie-gpl.tar.bz2

I dunno what the hell this link is two, never looked at their products, also no idea how to get to this page from their main page.

That is for a different product. Not the LaCie ethernet disk raid that I have.There is no source code available for it.

[Big Buck Hunter]

thinkliberty

Please read this page and compose a report.

http://www.gnu.org/l...-violation.html

Thank you for your time,
Frank Russo

[serial]

hopefully no one would buy their over-priced storage solution anyways. it's a 4 disk NAS, you should be able to get much more than 1tb out of it, especially for the price.

[imsabbel]

Sign. First, turn of the zeal, it makes you look like an idiot (it really puts off people, you know).

Second. Consider that the Phone Monkey doesnt know jack.


Third. Look at their website. You might notice the downloads called "GPL source codes",like this one: http://www.lacie.com...er.htm?id=10099

(there are others for other products), so they dont hide that they use linux, and they provide sources.

oops. didnt notice that other post above. This source is also not from the identical product, but its also from a raid-using one. Its entirely possible that the GPL part of both is identical, which should be enough to comply GPL 2.0 (GPL 3.0 is a totally different can of viral shitworm)

This post has been edited by imsabbel: 20 March 2007 - 02:35 PM

[thinkliberty]

imsabbel, on Mar 20 2007, 02:33 PM, said:

Sign. First, turn of the zeal, it makes you look like an idiot (it really puts off people, you know).

I guess being against companies that profit off of the work of others against their will makes me an "idiot" in your eyes. And being against copyright violators makes me a zealot.

So you must consider pirating software for profit to be cool. It makes me proud that you consider me an idiot, as I don't mind "putting off people" that have zero moral fiber.

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Second. Consider that the Phone Monkey doesnt know jack.

Consider that the whole company is selling software against the terms and conditions put on it by it's creators.

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Third. Look at their website. You might notice the downloads called "GPL source codes",like this one: http://www.lacie.com...er.htm?id=10099

(there are others for other products), so they dont hide that they use linux, and they provide sources.

oops. didnt notice that other post above. This source is also not from the identical product, but its also from a raid-using one. Its entirely possible that the GPL part of both is identical, which should be enough to comply GPL 2.0 (GPL 3.0 is a totally different can of viral shitworm)

Nope The GPL parts are not identical. They are not complying with the GPL 2.0. They also must include a copy of the GPL with any product they distribute that is license under the GPL.

They FAIL both the source code and including a copy of the license requirements of the GPL.

[Big Buck Hunter]

thinkliberty,

What was the response from http://www.gnu.org/l...-violation.html ?

Lighten up,
Frank Russo

[thinkfree]

Hi to all !!!

Just for info....

- Connect your LaCie via web
- Connect hidden page [https://IP_LACIE/ssh_controlF.cgi]
- Turn on SSH service
- Open and connect SSH client to LaCie

User: root
Pass: storage [or defaulf of your LaCie]

All page of LaCie webserver are stored in: \usr\local\ipstor\www \usr\local\ipstor\www\html.en


Many thanks to thinkliberty for info in first message!

This post has been edited by thinkfree: 12 May 2007 - 04:36 AM

[think22]

hi all, the https instructions didn't work for me. maybe it's serial number related or just me...
(sorry if this gets double-posted):

https url from post 'thinkfree' date='May 12 2007' does not work for my setup. maybe they changed it in later models, i just got mine from dell 3 days ago. (btw it's working fine so far however date rates are slow @ ~50mbps on usb 2.0, through their usb-ethernet stack)

got an "unable to connect" from firefox (2.0.0.9) ...

thinkfree, on May 12 2007, 04:35 AM, said:

- Connect your LaCie via web
- Connect hidden page [https://IP_LACIE/ssh_controlF.cgi]

btw i also tried to ftp into it with the following login, again, no joy ...

thinkfree, on May 12 2007, 04:35 AM, said:

User: root
Pass: storage [or defaulf of your LaCie]

technical info on my disk:
http://ethernet_bd/c...in/admin/config
General
Machine Name Ethernet_BD
Windows Workgroup Workgroup
Appletalk Zone
Time Zone UTC
Current Date 2007-11-18 09:48:17 AM
Network configuration Ethernet controller (Unplugged)
USB network interface (10.208.75.100)

Software
Software version 1.0.10
Updates Log No updates found

Hardware
Bios Version U-Boot 1.1.1
Manufacturer and model LaCie S.A., Ethernet Big Disk
Physical Memory 60 MB
Virtual Memory 125 MB

http://ethernet_bd/c...n/admin/network
Ethernet controller (10/100/1000Mbps) (Unplugged)
USB network interface
Physical Address B6-3B-F4-1B-17-34
DHCP Enabled Yes
IP Address 10.208.75.100
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 10.208.75.100
DNS Server none
WINS Server none
JumboFrame Size 1500

using the usb connection on this demo above.
ftp works fine to "share" with 'admin' login.